The Warren House: The Night Unfolds (Part Two)

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey everyone, on this week's episode of Whispers from the Mists, Conversations from the Spiritual Byway, we are stepping back inside the Worn House. Part one brought us on to the property and into the beginning of our experience. In part two, we moved deeper into the night, beginning with Rick opening the door to the occult museum and continuing through the experiences that followed. Before we get into it, I do want to mention something that happened while we were recording this episode. The internet became unstable several times, and what stood out to us was that it seemed to happen when our conversation shifted into another part of the house or another piece of the experience. Someone's connection would become unstable, things would get a little wonky, or one of us would just drop out completely. Now that doesn't mean we know why it happened. There could absolutely be an ordinary explanation. But because technology issues have come up more than once while we've been talking about the Warren House, we felt it was worth acknowledging rather than pretending it wasn't part of the recording. We also once again want to thank Elton, Ginger, Matt, Rick, Dylan, and Grace for giving us the opportunity to experience the house, the museum, and the night for ourselves. What you'll hear in this episode is how we remember it, what stood out to each of us, and how we continued to process it through our own intuition, sensitivities, and research. There were moments that felt peaceful and moments where discernment became more important than trying to find an answer. And that really is what this conversation is about. Not proving anything and not telling you what to believe, just sharing the experiences that happened to us and continuing to explore together along the spiritual byway. So with that, this is part two, The Warnout. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Whispers from the Mist Conversations from the Spiritual Byway. Last week, I left you on a cliffhanger along with my friends Jennifer Jones and Bonnie D'Angelo. Hi. Hi Jam. I'm so happy to have you here. I mean, it's a lot to unpack. I really hope we did the first part of our adventure justice because it was such a cool adventure, and everything that happened felt so natural and it felt light and it felt like being part of something bigger. But then Rick unlocks the door to the occult museum, and three young ladies, or three ladies, walked into the museum, and I just got the poor connection detected. Told you that timing every time we talk about it. Timing is crazy. Wow. But anyhow, we're in the occult museum now, and the first thing that Rick says to us is let's talk about the elephant in the room, which was, of course, Annabelle. Bonnie, what do you want to say about Annabelle?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Well, I was very intrigued and I was pulled in that direction for most of the night. I looked around the other's stuff, but it was locking me in place for some reason. I wasn't scared. I didn't feel fear. I just felt like magnetized or something. It was weird.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Do you think that was because of curiosity or just being in the presence of, or just kind of everything?

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Probably everything. I mean, obviously, yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Yeah, to see her actually there, sitting in her case in front of you. I was mesmerized, but I couldn't help my eyes darting around the rest of the museum. Jen, what were you thinking when you went into that museum?

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Uh I don't know that I really had the same reaction to Annabelle. I think it was maybe this is like my whole complex when I'm around famous people where I'm just like, meh. So I wasn't really paying too much attention. My thoughts were on the opposite side, where there was the one doll that was like specifically designed to kill people. That one I really did not like. It had like a conglomerate of different parts of animals and whatnot. That one bothered me. And then the other one that he like knocked on that was like made out of ceramic that was some sort of demon doll. Those two I just did not like, those ones at all. And I could definitely feel a lot of darkness around those.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

They definitely had a lot of darkness around them. They were creepy and they had a lot of darkness around them.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

They were disturbing, and I think so much so that I kind of blocked them out of my mind for most of our time in the museum. We were introduced to them, we were given the history of them, and then I think I didn't even see them again. I think for my own spiritual safety, I kind of had to put that block up because it is said that the one doll, is it called the devil doll? I can't remember what it's called, but she is the deadliest. I think it's the shadow doll. The shadow doll. And Rick did tell us the way to activate her. I mean, there are many steps to it. You have to take a picture, you have to say a spell and put the person's name on the back of the picture. So it's not something she does on her own, but that is the story of her. And I just had to block it out. I didn't even want to take a picture. I think you did take a picture though, Bonnie. I think I did. Yeah. Yeah. Have you looked at your pictures yet? No.

unknown 5:17

No.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

How about you, Jen? I didn't want that in my phone. I didn't want to come across it later. I did not take pictures of them. I do have other pictures that I have revisited, but not those.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

I felt the same way. I didn't want to go back and see that again. And it that's probably why I just mentally blocked it out. But there were over 750 artifacts in that museum. And we were told they have so many more that they just can't fit them in that space. I really was intrigued because there was a doll in there and she was a new addition, but it said that her hair grows. So that really reminded me of Okiku. And I really think it's neat because Rick is documenting this right now, and I would love to see his research when he's done or to reach out and say, is her hair growing? Because it's so curious to me. Intriguing, yeah. And then I was also pulled to, but from because I associated fear with it. The dinosaur from the devil made me do it. Just to think of that coming alive, that was too close to Toy Story. Because when it came alive, it did demonic things. And I didn't even want to go near it. I think one of you said, go place the recorder over by that. And I'm like, you know, being very hesitant about it and kind of trying to do it from a distance. I did not want to be around that thing. But the thing I did want to be around were the two ventriloquist figures. And their names were Edwin and Casper. And they were a place that I could go when I was feeling overwhelmed. And it's almost like they sensed I was feeling overwhelmed because we placed a REM pod right in front of them. And every time I got overwhelmed by Annabelle, the REM pod would go off, which would call me back over because of course I want to talk to my friends. So I found comfort with the two of them.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

And they wanted to talk to you too. I'm not gonna lie. I was a little offended because every time I'd asked a question, they wouldn't say anything to me. But the minute you asked a question, they were like, Oh yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Well, do you remember when we were all standing over by Casper and having a conversation? And one of you, well, you both were wearing watches, but one of you had a watch that was going off. And what was that watch saying, Jen?

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Said, my body is near here. And Rick just points down and is like, yeah, right there. And there was a body in a casket, just the bones bound together right in front of us.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

And we didn't even see it. I mean, there's so much in there, and it wasn't a skeleton that was laid out. As you said, it was bound together. I my eyes didn't even see it until Rick's like, well, just look down. Like, look what's right there. And that was a little freaky to me. What did you think, Bonnie?

SPEAKER_03 8:05

Yeah, it it was it was a little creepy. It's just so in line with the activities that it's just so intelligent to me. It's like, that's gotta be what it was talking about, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Exactly. I mean, it was the only skeleton in there, and we were standing right above it. So it wanted its two seconds to interface with us, which I thought was really cool. So then I guess we'll go back to Annabelle, unless there's any other artifacts you want to mention before we talk about our experience with Annabelle.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

No, it was interesting to see all of them. But yeah, I wasn't drawn to too much in there except for the Annabelle. Like that was the energy that was just pulling me for some reason.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

There's a lot of reason there because what we experienced in that corner of the museum, I can't explain it still. So we can walk through that. We did, you know, set up our equipment right around where Annabelle was. And one of the most memorable moments for me was you, Bonnie, and the Esties method that you did with the spirit box. For those of you who don't know what the Estes method is, somebody is sitting there, they have a spirit box going and they have noise canceling headphones on. So they cannot hear the questions that we are asking. And you went into a trance, like you were in the flow, Bonnie, because I never do the spirit box because I can't differentiate all the beepings and the changing of the stations. And I know Jen tried it and she felt the same way. So what was going on there, Bon Bonnie? Like what were you experiencing and feeling?

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Well, it took a it took a bit to get into it and it just messing around with with the rhythms and stuff. But I started, I closed my eyes and I started rocking back and forth and I started really just letting myself drift a little bit and just like taking it in. And when I started doing that, once I let go, they were making sense. They were just, they were, and I and I was just saying whatever came through. I had no idea if it was making sense on your end or not, but it does get you in a little trance and it's it's it it was hard to come out of it. I'm like, just keep going. I was just like, there's a lot of lot of things I'm hearing. It was really interesting.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

I'm excited for when we work up the courage to go back through and watch that because you were impressive. You were rain man with that thing. And there was a point when the questions were coming, but you were answering before the question was even finished. And I'm like, oh good Lord, slow down. It was really cool. I can't wait to hear, especially at the end of the FD's method, like how that went. That was that was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

And one of the things that you kept doing while you were in trance or working with the spirit box is you kept looking up. And you said words about looking up. And above the museum, when there was like this little attic, and you know, we could see it, we could look up and see it, and we didn't see anything there. But come to find out, and Jen, do you want to share the story?

SPEAKER_02 11:05

I did have a spirit talk that kept saying, like, look up. I'm on the ceiling. It kept trying to draw attention up there. And later on, and we'll probably talk about this later, when I was talking with Wade, he was saying that one of his bigger experiences had to do with something with the roof or the ceiling. I'll have to ask Kelly to get details on that.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

Well, Rick had said to us that a couple visitors before us, the people saw eyes looking down at them from the attic. And I know, is that not just crazy? And I wasn't sure if you were there for that story, but then we remembered one about Wade, and I'm like, oh, it sounds similar, it sounds connected, but he didn't say it was Wade that had that experience, just that someone had been there and seen eyes looking down at them from the attic. Oh yikes, no thanks. Yeah, no, thank you. So that was really cool, and there was a lot going on in that museum. For me, I was having a lot of issues with regulating my body temperature. I would get really hot, especially while Bonnie was doing the Estes method. Of course, my buddy Casper and Edwin, they started the REM pod going, and I went to see them. And of course, there was a fan right by them. I'm like, oh, they know exactly what I need right now. And Jim, you did say that while I was over there talking to them, and that sounds so silly. I'm talking to ventriloquists. I don't like the word dummies, ventriloquist puppets. You said Bonnie started answering the questions I was asking them because she was still doing the Estes method.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

Yeah, it was something along the lines of come back or over here or something like that. You walked away from them and then it told you to come back or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah, so we're in the space. We then move from the spirit box to this really cool voice recorder that Matt and Elton own. They let us use it. It's one of those recorders that will take out the breaks, it'll take out the silence. So you could ask a question, what's your name? Where are you from? You know, we leave those pauses there. But what the recorder picks up is, what's your name? Where where are you from? There's no like silence in there. So we decided we would do some experimenting with that. And Rick said to put it next to Annabelle, which we did. And then Rick said that we should tell it, we're leaving and acknowledge when we come back into the room. And we did that. And we picked up some pretty crazy things, and our internet is now again unstable talking about it. I just noticed that. Crazy. Bonnie, do you want to explain what we picked up on the recorder?

SPEAKER_03 13:48

Yeah, sure. So we did that. We we pressed record, we said, okay, we're gonna leave. Um so we left the room, went outside, closed the door, and I think we are in the sanctuary for maybe 15 minutes-ish. And then we came back in and outstar arrival, ended the recording, and after we left, it was a constant about one one and a bit minutes of growling and screeching, and it sounds like trying to make words, but you can't hear it. Like it's it's not just ah, but it was a sorry, that probably sounded really weird. We could make out one scream, and it was a scream of comeback with so much anguish and desire to get us back in the room for some reason. It was really unsettling. So I don't know how long it went on for. I mean, a minute within the recording. So it's probably spread out over the 15 minutes of just weirdness.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

How did that make you feel, Jen, when you heard that? Because we did it several times. We have several recordings that I hope to be able to put on social media. I just have to go back because it's hard to hear because the type of recorder that they had, you couldn't put an SD card in it. You had to like video it with your phone to pick up what it was saying. And the recordings are good, but I want to find a way to make them louder so people can actually hear the recording.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

The part that struck me about all of this is that the recording that he showed us where this had happened before was over what I think was like a couple hours. And it was maybe, I don't know, I want to say like 15 seconds. It wasn't a very long, like after it condensed all of the audio, it was a very short amount of temper tantrums that were coming through the device. We were only gone for like 15 minutes, and the amount of audio that was recorded and the amount of time that we were gone was much longer than that other video. And listening to the contrast, too, it was much more, I don't want to say like emotional, but it wasn't just noise that was coming through. It was this like guttural, like screaming or like it was so bizarre, but it was much more than what the example that he gave us was. And that's when I was like, ooh, what's going on with us? Like, why is this different?

SPEAKER_01 16:05

It was pulling at my emotions, even though I knew it shouldn't be. And my mind instantly went back to those two nurses who thought that there was a little girl spirit attached to the doll. I mean, they're very caring people. They're people who do that for a living. That's their job. And the three of us were empaths. And it was, as Bonnie and Jen said, gutter roll. And it did sound like come back. And all I could picture was a dog or something caught in a cage just running around and around. And I knew I couldn't give it what it wanted because that would give it an in that I had to be strong. But it was really hard because it was hard to listen to. And I don't know what else to say about it other than it made me very uncomfortable. I mean, I know with Rick being there, and he was so gracious, he stayed with us throughout the night. You know, he's like, don't give it your fear, don't, don't give it credit for being something that's not. You have to stay strong with it. And, you know, we've always been taught, like at the Zach Begin's Museum with Peggy, don't look her in the eye. And he's like, screw that. You look at her because you don't want to give her or it, because I kept calling it a her. It's an it. I don't know what's attached to it, but I know there's something there. And it was terrifying. 100%. 100% it was disturbing. So we did a couple recordings there. One time we went upstairs. The next time we went outside, Rick had gone outside, the room was affecting him, or he wasn't feeling good or something. So he went outside to the sanctuary. We found him there. And again, the recorder is running in the museum. And when we're outside talking to him, what was going on around the fence? Because it was not quiet. There was something in the woods around us. And tell me what you thought about that.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

I did everything in my power to justify it. I'm like, maybe it's just like a really big squirrel.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

Yeah. And then Rick was having some motion sensors going off with the cameras and such, right? That were, he said, this is unusual. I felt like he was it was unusual for him. So he was flustered with his camera and all the security, which was kind of tricky.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Not just the camera, but the floods of lights were going off too. And he said that they don't go off for like animals or raccoons or anything. But those kept going off and his camera kept picking up on something that wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

And I remember when we were in the museum, you kept saying, I keep hearing this like ringing. What is that? And that's when he told us that his alarm system was picking up things in the sanctuary room, which was completely empty. So he had to keep going out to check that there wasn't something there messing with it. So that was really freaky, also. So there was something definitely in the woods around the house that night. And this is again gonna play in the story in just a little while. Before we left the museum, because again, we got four hours down there. They went by very quickly, but slow too. Like both happen, both can be true. But attached to the museum was Ed's office. And we left the recorder in there once and picked up a lot of sounds from Ed's office. It felt not very hospitable.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

I agree. Yeah, there was some interesting noises through that recording too.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

And before we completely left the occult museum to go back upstairs, Bonnie remembered that we did have an SLS camera with us. Well, the SLS camera is the one that picks up the little stick figures if there's something there. And what did you think, Jen?

SPEAKER_02 19:38

I don't know why this surprised me, but I was intrigued by how they were not bound by gravity that the one was able to turn sideways and cling on to the window. And you could see it had like frantic like pulling behavior at this window. And that was interesting. And I thought it was interesting too that they disappear when you get close, that they just leave immediately.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

I I agree with that. I mean, it was really cool when Bonnie picked up that first figure, and it was in the hallway that connected the museum to the house. So it was a hallway going into the basement that we were going to have to walk back through. So that was a little unsettling. So the SLS camera happened like right before we left the museum. Um, before leaving the museum, I do want to say this because it's so important. The electronics drained. Everything drained so quickly. We had four new camera batteries, all drained. The recorder, they had just changed the batteries in it, drained. My phone, I was trying to record, you know, the little recorder. I know how to take a video. I hit video and both times no video afterwards. So all these weird electronic things were happening inside the museum. So again, we're now gathering all of the equipment that we have down there. We have these little totes. We're taking them upstairs. Rick helps us out. And as we're leaving the museum, we start to hear one of those paranormal bells, or what we thought was a paranormal bell, start dinging. The problem was we had them with us. One was upstairs, the others were in our totes. So both him and Jen, if I remember correctly, went to look for a bell, even though we knew we had them, and there was no bell down there. So something was mimicking.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

I want to note, too, that his camera was picking up on something in the sanctuary. The sanctuary is at the far end, like at that door right there at the museum where we were. So the fact that we were hearing a bell that wasn't there, we had the bells with us, really close to right where that camera was picking up on something that wasn't there. That was a little alarming.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

No, it was crystal clear and it was a ding like the bell. And the museum, which I don't know if we described it, it had one exit to the Outside that we came into. And then there's another exit that's connected to the house. So the sanctuary's on the outside door. So that was a little bit freaky. And then as we were going upstairs, there was something going off on that main level. The only problem is I turned everything off before we went downstairs. So something was mimicking another piece of equipment upstairs as we were coming up those stairs. We walk upstairs and we start putting our equipment away. At that point, Rick says, you know, I'm walking up the museum. You'll hear me down in the office for just a few minutes, and then I'm heading to my house. But, you know, you guys have a safe night, do what you want to do to explore. And the only part at the house that we hadn't explored at that point was the basement. So of course, at like one o'clock in the morning or 12:30 in the morning, we decide to go down into this creepy ass basement that again had a big table in one room, and then a closet with dolls, and then Lorraine's office. And this was the most terrifying part of the night. And look at that. Our internection just went wonky again. Every single time we start to talk about oh, this is freaking me out. So who wants to go first and talk about that experience in the basement?

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Before we went down to the basement, though, is when the SLS thing happened. Um, where Bonnie had the SLS pointed at the top of the stairs. Do you remember this?

SPEAKER_03 23:37

I think that was after we were completed in the basement.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Well, because the question you asked it was to go in the basement with us and it looks down the stairs and then goes down.

SPEAKER_03 23:47

This is what happened twice at the basement stairs.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

At both the beginning of us going into the basement and then at the end. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Oh my.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Yeah, I totally forgot about that. That one I have on my phone because I quickly like got in with my cell phone to get a quick clip of it because I thought it was so interesting that it was, it wouldn't move beyond the top of the stairs. And earlier in the night when we were setting up the devices and everything, the only thing, because we had like cat balls and things all around the top floor, the only thing that would go off was the REM pod that we had up at the top of the stairs. Um, so I thought that was interesting and that kind of comes into play a little bit later. But yeah, it was it was uh again, not bound by the rules of gravity. There was a the stick figure up at the top of the stairs. And it whenever you asked it if it would like to join us, it looks down the stairs and disappeared.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

And like in any good horror movie, we followed it down the stairs. Like what were we thinking?

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Banging at the TV, yelling, What are you doing? I come completely forgot that we got it twice there at the stairs. So that's interesting. Oh my gosh, wow. Okay, yeah. So we're in the basement. I thought we would get some really, really very interesting evidence. I was like, we're gonna this something's gonna happen here. And I knew it. I was excited and I was waiting. And I was ready or thought I was ready. So we just all kind of sat there. We we set up the REM pod, we set up some cat balls, we set up a flashlight, and and then I think we did some EVPs in the doll room and got some some more of those weird noises in there.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

You were brave. You were the one that went and put it in the doll room. And then we just sat at the table. We didn't leave the basement this time. We just sat at the table, had a, you know, whispered conversation. We didn't want to make too much noise and have it picked up, but they didn't hold back. We didn't hear anything with our physical ears. But when we played back that recording, there was a lot there. And it was terrifying. And as we're playing it back, the REM pod goes off, the flashlight goes off, and Jen's watch starts going off. And what kind of things, Jen, was your watch telling you?

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah, that's another one of the things I took a picture of. It said, Darkness is everywhere was the first thing. Oh, I just got full body chills repeating it. Oh, it still messes with me. And then, and I do have this on camera too. It was like the flashlight had just turned off when then it said skinwalkers near. And that's when I was like, nope, all right. It figured out my trigger word. Like I'm that was it for me. And I slowly started to pack up my book, and then it said, don't rush off. And that's when I was like, that's the quickest way to get me out of that space, is to tell me not to do that.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

And you know, one thing I want to add here, Jen, you were so steady throughout the night. You were a source of comfort and strength to me, as was Bonnie, like just having you both there. And in that moment, you went from being this calm, competent, strong person to this person like, nope, I'm noping right out of here right now. I'm closing my book. And the whole vibe changed. We just felt the whole room change. And yeah, we got out of there.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

Got out there real quick, real quick. And that's that's the time I remember pulling the SLS while we were upstairs. I was looking to see what was on the stairs, and sure enough, something showed up there. And it didn't come any further than the stairs, and it it it eventually disappeared on its own.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

That's crazy. And at one point, I think it was the next morning, we realized, Jen, you were missing your crystal or something, and we're like, what if it like came out of your pocket in the basement? So we were trying to decide like, are we gonna go down to the basement to get it? But you found it, thank God, and we didn't have to go back into the basement. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

It would have been, it would have belonged to the house at that point.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

I'm I wasn't going back down there for it. I think we were all emotionally exhausted, we were physically exhausted, and we were just in awe of everything we'd just experienced, and we're just sitting on the couch. Now, I get very nervous energy when I'm trying to regulate myself. So I was over there trying to figure out like which piece of equipment went to which charger, how to put everything away, tidy things up. And that's just how my body started trying to decompress. And then I know we discovered there was a TV there. And Jen, you were sitting there trying to figure out like what to watch, what to watch. And then you finally handed me the remote. And I'm like, okay, well, here's Prime. There's this Hallmark movie. You can't get any darkness out of a Hallmark movie. This will be light for us to watch and just like veg out. And the show that I picked, one of the main characters' name was Annabelle. Uh-huh. Of course. Yeah. After we just spent the whole evening with Annabelle, we go upstairs to decompress, and the name is with us still. So I thought that was really unsettling, also. Confirmation though.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Um, after you were done with your fix-it mode, running around trying to organize everything, we all sat on the couch just like in silence, like not even really quite sure how to process everything. And there was so much banging on the outside of the house. And in my brain, I'm thinking, okay, maybe that's like the HVAC kicking on. Then I realized it was a window unit that was right next to us, and there was nothing that could have been making that noise. And that was about for like 30 minutes after, while we were trying to watch this sappy show. This banging was happening outside of the house after we had heard all that noise earlier, and the cameras were going off and the watch said what it said.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

And we were told there's skin walkers out there. And I do hate saying that word, but what are they known for? They're known for mimicking sounds, and that's what we were experiencing. We heard the rustling in the branches. Things were going off electronically. And something I forgot to mention earlier is that morning before we went into the house, Bonnie and I had stayed at a hotel creepy. This is a whole nother episode, but we showed up. We were the only two guests at this haunted inn. It was so funny. The person who checked us in said it wasn't haunted, but there's a ton of information out there that says it is haunted. But anyhow, when we were loading our bags in the car, Bonnie's like, oh yeah, you know, while I was waiting for you, I was watching something on Skinwalker Ranch. And it's just so weird that we had that conversation in the morning. We didn't mention it at all. I kind of had forgot about it until that name came up. And I'm like, this is too weird. And I was in a point thinking, like, there's that apartment above the garage, but I'm not going outside. And I don't know if I'm more scared sitting inside in this energy, hearing the thumps and everything else going on around us, or chanting it and going outside and up to that apartment. So I felt really stuck. I just wanted morning to come.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

Yeah, I think we all did. It was there was some creepiness about it for sure. Morning after we realized the front the door wasn't even shut all the way.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

I know that's the creepiest part. We were so scared for our physical, our spiritual safety that we didn't realize there was a door behind the wall where the couch was, and it was left open all night. I don't think it was anything paranormal. I just think it was left open, but that's not me. I look at every door before I go to bed and make sure it's locked. So that that was very, very strange. It's scary. Yeah. And I will say one more thing about being in the basement as we were leaving. Jen, you were like, reach out to Rick, see if Rick's there. So I sent him a message and Rick was at home and he's like, Are you guys okay? I'm like, Yeah, physically we're okay, but like everything's really kicked up. And he said, That happens. And it was like, Okay, we're here, the three musketeers, these three ladies. We walked into this haunted house and ended up sharing Lorraine's bedroom. Two of us in the bed. And Jen, you were so kind to take the floor.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

I would rather have the floor than sleep anywhere else in that house. Do you want to talk about the noises we heard while trying to fall asleep?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Okay, so I heard buzzing and vibrations coming from the wall that was connected to Ed's office and that bedroom. And I don't know about you guys, but I heard traffic noise. It sounded like cars going really fast. And I we're on the end of a of a road. There's nowhere to go. There's woods and cliffs all around us. Like there's no traffic. But then at one point it sounded like it was overhead. It was it found it sounded like something was flying over top of us.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Like it encompassed us. And you're thinking, are we on a flight path or is there a train station nearby? But it was a rattling, vibrating noise, and it was disconcerting to say the least after everything we'd experienced.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Just something else I did want to mention that when I did have the opportunity to go to Salem and I met the lovely Mr. Wade Kirby, he was saying that part of his routine that he does is he makes sure that that top floor is inhospitable to any other spirits. And he was delighted to see that the spirits weren't coming up beyond the top of the stairs, that whatever protective measures he put down that it had still been holding, that it was working. So I thought that was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Yeah. And one other thing is when we were down in the cult museum, the spirit watch did say the word Ryan, who was somebody you met the next night too in Salem. So that was really cool. Yeah, I didn't know. Do you want to tell everybody how I scared you that night? How I accidentally scared you because I'm like, I have to go to the bathroom. So I was trying to be so quiet. And you woke up as I was stepping over you and like screaming, everybody like Bonnie woke up and I'm like, I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

All I could see was your shadow just like lurching over me because you were trying not to step on me. So all I was like, that's not what you need in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Oh my god, you scared the living Jesus out of me. I woke up. I'm like, I I thought I stopped breathing. It was it was intense but funny at the same time. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Yeah, it wasn't probably funny at the time, but looking back, you know, we had some laughs in there too. And um, this experience again, I was so happy to share this experience with both of you. Um, the next morning we did get up. We were out of the house fairly early. Bonnie and I had to fly out. Jen, you went to Salem. You got to go to the grand opening of the Warren Museum. Um, you got to meet all these wonderful people who also knew the Warrens. You got to meet Ginger Castie, who, again, huge shout out to her. I know the correspondence I've had has been with her. And I think that's really cool that you got to do that too. But I know we're getting close to like the end of this recording. And Jen, if you would come back and share with us um what happened in Salem and your whole journey that kind of came together and unfolded with Kelly and the connections there, I would truly be grateful. And I did want to ask you each one more question if you're up to it. The question I want to ask has to do with the house itself. I know for me, going into the house, it really intensified my understanding of Ed and Lorraine. And, you know, I did a lot of research, but I felt like I got that personal vibe. I came across their energy. I met so many people who knew them. So for me, that's something that really changed after going into the Warren House. How do you feel different after having the experience inside the Warren House? Has it changed you in any way? Or is the story to be continued?

SPEAKER_03 35:29

I I agree with everything you say. You said I feel exactly the same. I felt that connection in a huge way. I don't know yet if if I I don't think it's changed me. It's to be continued for sure. I'm not opposed to going back, even though the major artifacts have been moved. I think sitting with Ed and Lorraine's energy is absolutely a blessing and beautiful. And and I wouldn't be opposed to going back to see what now happens if anything has changed since the museum has been refigured. But then also I'm like, okay, what is gonna take about this experience?

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Yeah, what's next on the agenda to be determined? How about you, Jen? How do you feel after leaving the house?

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Whew, it was definitely a big turning point for me. I think for me, I was able to make connections with energies that I had experienced in the past without going too deep into it. And it really kind of helped develop that picture a lot more and helped me understand my childhood a little bit better. And so this is definitely a story to be continued. I'm unpacking a lot, and I feel like there's some ancestral wounds that are actually being healed through this situation. And it was jarring and it was crazy. But I am truly grateful for the experience and I'm so grateful that you invited me. And I feel like we're all trauma bonded for life now.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Definitely trauma bonded, and we're warriors too. And you know, one more thing I want to add is I wonder if when Ed and Lorraine lived in the house, doing the work that they did, did they hear those thumps at night? Did they hear the screeching? Like, what was their experience living in the house and how different was it than what we experienced? Or was it just like another day in the life of? I don't know. I thought that too.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

I'm like, how do you sit there in that energy all that time, like just making Thanksgiving dinner while dolls are screeching in the corner? Like I I was dumbfounded by that.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Yeah, things that keep me up at night. How about you, Bonnie? Do you think they heard the thumps? Do you think they had similar experiences?

SPEAKER_03 37:39

I mean they had to. They are open. So yes, I believe they they must have been experienced some things. Now we could go back with the intent on investigating and asking questions specific to Adam Lorraine and getting their story and see if they want to talk, which would be really, really fascinating if if we got some intelligent responses to questions regarding their lives.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

I do just want to say too, I keep thinking of more things I want to say. You know, in so many of the episodes we've already recorded, we talked about how stories were Hollywoodized. And I believe that is still true. And I know that their actual accounts differentiate from what we see on the screen. However, I'm not discounting it all as Hollywood anymore because I heard those sounds. I had that experience. I was in that energy. So I can't discount it all and blame it on Hollywood because what they experienced was something real. I I really truly believe that and understand that more again than when I before going in the house.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Well, any final thoughts on the Warren House? And again, this doesn't have to be our last episode because as we sit with it, more comes through.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

I can't think of anything else at this moment. Yeah, we said we had a lot. We had a lot.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

So well, thank you everybody for listening to our experience inside the Warren House. If you have any questions or comments, please reach out. We'd love to answer them. Um, we'd love to share more of our story or whatever. We're open for that. So again, Jen, thank you so much for being here. Bonnie, thank you so much for being here and having this experience with me. Like it truly was a defining moment for me. And I haven't been able to talk to too many people about it. Honestly, I've talked to nobody about it because they don't get it. They don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

And it's hard to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

It's definitely hard to talk about. So we'll just keep the conversation going between us then and keep healing from it. And I don't know if healing's the right word, but rolling whatever. We'll keep doing it.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

With that, until next time, everybody. Hi, everyone.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

We're here for you, and we're all in this together.