When Kids Have Psychic Experiences

SPEAKER_00 0:00

On this week's episode of Three Cups in a Dash of Spirituality, we are going to be talking about how to support intuitive or psychic kiddos. Let's get this episode started. Cue the music. Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of Recups and Adasha Spirituality. I'm Michelle and here, as always, with Stacey. Hello, everybody. And Carissa. Hey, hey, hey. How are you ladies doing today? Pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

It's hot already in Texas, but what are you doing, Michelle?

SPEAKER_00 0:41

I'm doing good. Yeah. No, I I was in Alaska the other day. Now I'm back in Arizona. So that is a temperature change.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

What was the temperature there?

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Low 50s. Oh jeez. Talk about I know, but I had a really cool experience while I was flying back yesterday. Like, can I just take a moment to share it here?

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Do we do?

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Because it kind of ties into last week's episode or the episode we released two weeks ago when we were talking about dreams and premonitions and things like that. I was sitting in the plane, buckled in my seat. We're starting our descent into Seattle, and I closed my eyes and I'm sitting there completely relaxed. And then all of a sudden I was outside the plane and I had the clearest view of the sky and the horizon. It was crystal freaking clear and it was so bright that I opened my eyes. And I wish I could have held on to that moment for a little bit longer, but I wasn't expecting it. So it like surprised me and I came right out of it. But it was really cool. I haven't had something like that happen so instantaneously. Like I astral traveled, but that was just, it was weird. It was cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

With this experience, what did it feel like? Did it feel like this the sense of like euphoria, or did it come just suddenly and you didn't have a chance to kind of catch up with what you were feeling?

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Yeah, euphoria is a great word for it because it was just like out there and I just felt so free. And again, nothing's ever been that crystal clear before. And I'm like, where am I? And then I'm like, whoa. And then like was right out of it. But in that moment, in those seconds, yeah, it was very freeing, euphoric, interesting, exciting.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

All of those positive vibes. I love that. Chris, you said something like that's happened to you before.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

When you texted that day before I was starting a session, and there was a little orb that came through, and I was like, Oh, someone's here. It's like, and so I tapped in very quickly before they came on Zoom and I said, Who is this? And it was a woman and she showed her hair, but that's all I got. From someone that was on the computer, it was someone's loved one. It feels like maybe that person's gonna come in more, or maybe they're helping me with someone. But it was cool because I don't see orbs like you. And so that little orb that went in front of the computer, it was like, What?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

I love this life we live. Like we get to experience so many cool things, and all we have to do is be open to the idea of it.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Well, when you say that, it's kind of interesting because I think one of the things that pops up is it's like, did that really just happen? Did I really just experience that? And sometimes we have these really cool experiences where we don't even acknowledge them because we're just we can't, because we don't like I in and I know I've used this example so many times, but it reminds me of the first time I ever crossed somebody over. I did it and then I paused and I went, Well, that just happened. Like you just do it, and then you kind of it's like your brain catches up with you after.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Yeah, very cool. So I wanted to share that as we move away from dreams and premonitions, at least for this episode. This was Carissa's idea, and she had suggested that we talk about how to support intuitive or psychic children. And I think that's a wonderful topic. It's one that speaks to my heart and I know to yours also.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Well, what do y'all think about this whole thing about my child is a star seed? Because what I have noticed with children is that all children are intuitive. And when we put our children in a place where they're quote unquote special, that can actually cause more harm than good. What do y'all think about that?

SPEAKER_01 4:25

So I'm gonna jump right in and I'm gonna say that this goes back to do you remember when we were talking about all the different kinds of intuition that are out there and the labels and stuff like that? I abhor labels for that reason because I think it boxes people in to one specific definition of who they are and what they can do. And I think the descriptor of Starseed or anything along those lines does the exact same thing. I'm not against it. I understand the language is there for a reason and it helps us better understand things. However, whenever we start to put that much weight and pressure on those labels, it becomes so problematic and it actually forces, you know, particularly children into boxes that they really don't need to be. Children need to be able to be children. And if they have these intuitive experiences, abilities, or see things, it's cool to be able to support them in a very level way and not over expand that so they can still be kids. Exactly. They need to be kids and children.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I'm a mom and have boys. And again, I've always been open to it. And so had they ever come to me, I would have had the conversation, or so I thought. I think I've shared this before, but when my son was very young, we were taking a nap. And when he woke up, he saw a little boy in the room. And I'll tell you, in that moment, I was so shocked by it. I was not a good role model. I didn't know how to handle it because it scared me. I picked him up, I flipped on every light in the house. I called somebody on the telephone just to hear another person's voice. And it scared me. And so his first, and he doesn't really remember it now, but his first experience was mom being afraid of it. And if I could go back, and I have gone back into that situation, I meditated back and actually helped to cross that child over, you know, I I would have done it totally different if I knew then what I knew now. So it's a growing experience for us too. And I think a lot of these kids who are coming to their parents saying they're seeing something or they're having these experiences, that fear is natural, that anxiety about it is natural because what is this? This is something I'm not familiar with. And what am I gonna do? And Mama Bear kicks in. Mama bear does kick in. And you know, parents can go one of two ways. They can say, Stop it, don't ever talk about that again. It scares me. It people will look at you like you're funny, or they can embrace and say, Let's talk about it. Tell me what you saw. Tell me more, tell me more, you know, yeah. Knowing what I know now, having lived the experiences, I would be that person that's like, let's talk about it. Don't bottle it up because you're just breeding fear in the child at that point. You're making them feel like they're weird in some way if you don't have the conversations.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

There's two theories for parenting. One is if they say something's in the room, you're not supposed to say, Oh, let me let me help you out. Let's let's get them out. Because this theory says then you're indulging in the fantasy and the fear. Then another theory is stay creative with them and say, Okay, how can you protect yourself? Well, I'm for theory number two, because theory number one really invalidates their experience and their children anyway. So let's say, if nothing was there, why not just let them be creative? One time I volunteered when I was younger, I volunteered in an Alzheimer's unit. And what do we do? We enjoy their creativity. They're like, oh, I'm getting in a spaceship.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Okay, let's get in a spaceship. I think that one of the important things, though, with kids is to make sure that there is not a significant amount of fear there because I know clearings and stuff that I've done, a lot of them have centered around the night terrors or experiences little kids are having. And oftentimes I think that, you know, we kind of label things very quickly like night terrors or, you know, I know sleep disturbances and stuff like that. There's there's a lot of things that are behind it. But one of the things that I tend to embrace is that idea of allowing a child to create their own protection. And one recommendation that I've given time and time again to parents is doing monster spray just with water or just with water and maybe an essential oil or something in it, so that if these children or if a child is having an experience that scares them, they can use that. Um I call it monster spray, but label it whatever you want to protect them from whatever they're experiencing, which inadvertently creates a an energetic barrier, which is what we teach people to do.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

We just are the ones in in control, not right the stuck spirits.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Right. So if you have a child and they're having these experiences and you don't understand them, like that idea of that just you know, spray that they can, you know, use on their own, that will actually be one of the best tools in their toolbox because they can understand it.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

And it gives them the power, it puts the power back in their hand to make the decisions and protect themselves. When I think about kids and having intuitive abilities and when they're young, things coming through, I mean, they're not that far removed from what happened before they were born. I mean, they still can recall some of those memories because A, new memories aren't taking over them. They've not been taught not to know those things. And they're just being genuine with it. They're just being honest about it. And what a gift that is. I've heard of several really interesting cases of reincarnation. One was a little boy, his name was, I have it written down here, James Lenninger, L-E-I-N-I-N-G-E-R. And he was a little boy that from the time he could, his favorite toy was an airplane. And then they were fighter planes. And then he started recalling like places he had been and people he had known. And his parent, his dad's like, oh, not my house. This isn't happening in my house. But he was having night terrors at two years old, several, several times a week. Night terrors about his plane being shot down, catching on fire and him dying. He remembered all of this, all of the stuff from a previous life that's coming up, that's bubbling to the surface. Yeah, it's all bubbling to the surface. And so instead of like telling him to be quiet, not talk about it, not deal with it, they took him to somebody who helped not only encourage him to talk about it, but the parents to listen to it. And once they did that, the nightmares started to go away and he started recalling more. And it's just fascinating. He's like, No, my name. And he started like signing pictures that he'd drawn of a plane crashing as James III. And he's like, No, that was my name in the other life. He recalled the name of another person who he was friends with who was still alive, and the guy could validate his story. And this is like a young kid, and I'm gonna have the story in the show notes. So that's fascinating. And then there's another case of a lady named Barbo Carlin. She was born in Sweden. She thought she was Anne Frank reincarnated. And I'll put a story about her in the show notes. Also, it's from a podcast, and that's why we drink, or that's why I drink. But fascinating, fascinating how they can recall so much detail still. And if someone's taking notes, like you can compare.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

You can actually see it. Yeah, I I studied reincarnation for a little while. The story that you just shared, I have actually read. So I'm sitting here going, Yes, I I remember reading about him. And it's so intense, and it's there's so like typically they're so detailed that you can actually trace it back, but you have to listen in order to actually hear. I've seen, you know, I know in TikTok and on like Instagram, a lot of them have these reels of kids sharing like random pieces from from previous lives that you can actually take the time to look into. And it's fascinating to me.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah, I actually had a case in my own family where my grandpa was with somebody I know, a a young, a young child, and they were on a road trip and they stopped at this place and they got out and were walking around. And the young child said to my grandpa, we've been here before. Remember that time we came here and this happened? My grandpa's like, that was my brother I was with. I never shared this story with anybody else. But this young child brought it right up and said, We've been here. Remember when this happened? So fascinating. You can't discount it.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

I want to share while you were talking about kids picking up things more than adults. In my head, I was thinking, but why? Why do that? Okay, the brain's not full of developed. Why? And then you said, because they're not that far removed. And I know y'all might think this is silly. Y'all probably obviously have probably both thought that I've never really thought of it like that.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

Absolutely not. I mean, they were just there. And if, you know, I don't know how past lives work exactly if they're all happening at once. You know, some people think they're concurrent, you have to die in one to come back to the other. I tend, I really do tend to believe they all do happen at once. Yeah, they just made their soul contract to come into this life and they're carrying with them what they need to still process. You know, I think a really good thing to continue to talk about are those tools that we can give these kids and unbeknownst to that child, like with the monster spray you were talking about, Stacy.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Well, and I think I'll add through out there like the biggest thing is to make sure that they have a safe space to express themselves, you know, and and not feel judged, you know, asking those open-ended questions, like what else happened? Tell me more. I want to hear about your experiences, what did it feel like? What did it look like? And not just, you know, I it's it's interesting because I'm I go back to when I actually worked in a daycare. One of the, I don't want to say one of the worst things that you can do, but placating is one of the most challenging things for for kids to actually deal with. So, you know, if they're coloring a picture and you say, good job, they're done because I've already done the job, I've gotten, you know, my kudos, so I can move on. Whereas whenever you sit there and you look at something that they're drawing and you're like, why did you choose that color purple? What does that mean to you? What does that look like? Does it feel like that to you? It allows them to actually expand and learn that self-expression too, which helps them in in multiple different areas of development too. So opening it up and and not just placating and saying, Well, that's cool. It it just opens up those different conversations.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Absolutely, of course, so much other stuff. That's a great point.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

I think that's a really good tool, again, assuring them that they're not weird, that you're a here for them. And this just really brings me to a moment like we all have soul contracts, and there's a reason that we were put on this earth to be a mentor to this child. There was a reason we were put in this child's life, and that's a gift, and that's kind of how we have to look at it. We're here to foster, and you're the perfect person for your child to help them through that.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

If you don't understand what they are experiencing, it can be a joint learning opportunity. It can be an opportunity for you both or you all to learn and grow more about these things that are being experienced. It does not have to be a bad thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Your parenting skills don't have to be in a box. You're not gonna get it out of a book. Play, have fun, explore, and learn how to be a parent through parenting your child. Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Yeah, show up, be present, be creative. You know, I had a friend whose son was seeing things and he was terrified by it. And so she had to get creative. And much like the spray, she's like, Well, this is your hat. This is your no-see hat, like a ball cap. And when you're seeing something that frightens you, or if you're like turned off and you don't want to see anything, put on this ball cap. It covers the third eye, and I like it. You're not gonna have that experience. And so that was their creative way to also create a barrier is to put a hat on them and let them know they had control that way too. That's teaches them compartmentalization. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Obviously, I I've been very open for a very long time. And I remember I used to have a lot of nightmares or I would wake up and I would see things in my room, or you know, things would be happening. And I would always sleep with the light on, and it drove my parents nuts. So my mom got creative, and there was this one giant white teddy bear that she had in her room that when I was scared, I could go into their room. So I was seeing them and I knew that they were there and take the teddy bear, and the teddy bear would keep me safe for the rest of the night. So I always had access to it, but I didn't actually have to wake them up or go through a huge process. I just got the teddy bear and I was able to go back to sleep because it would keep me protected from all of these things that I was seeing and experiencing. So they didn't lose sleep and I was safe. It was, it was pretty creative. And I don't think I realized that until just now, which is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Well, how do you think parents should combat? Like the kids are seeing these things regularly, they're having these experiences, they're starting to kind of normalize them on their own. They've shared them with the parents, but the parents have fear around it. How do you think the parents can work through that fear in order to be more of an asset and present for the child and help them understand it?

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Well, and they need to do the work on themselves. Like your kid is having a different experience that you may not believe in. And how can you two coexist being different? Because the parent unconsciously is molding the child.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Well, and I I I agree, but I also think that's where you come in and you acknowledge those feelings. You know, buddy, I don't really understand what you're experiencing, but I want to hear more. You know, I I will say that I I want to understand your fear better because I have to tell you, it scares me a little bit, but I think the two of us can work through this together. Because I think acknowledging our experiences and our feelings and our mindset as an adult is key to teaching that open-ended communication with kids and teaching them that it's okay to not necessarily understand something as long as you are not giving into the fear of the experience.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

You know, I was raised Christian. So a lot of Baptists, actually. So the lot of it is, oh, you're talking to Satan, or you know, you're trying. So I I know that's kind of getting way far out there.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

I don't think any of our listeners are like that, but well, I mean, you're going to have issues with religious sex um, anyways. And that's, I mean, that's a completely different conversation.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

That's way over, yeah, that's way over there.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

And just sitting here listening to those conversations, it's important to remember that we advocate for our kids in everything they do. We are advocating for them at school. We're advocating for them with their doctors. This is just another way to advocate. Like if we talk and we're honest about where we are and we're having these conversations, then we know how to support them, not only within the home, but within the larger community too, which is really, I think, important. Kids need someone there to be their hero, to show them, I can't even talk, be their role model.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Creating that open dialogue really does help in the developmental process. And if they are intuitive or psychic or a medium or whatever label you want to put on, like that's awesome. By allowing them to express themselves, you're actually going to innately foster that and and have them more comfortable with who they are authentically. And that is ultimately the goal in growth is becoming, it's really becoming who you are. I I can speak for myself and say that I don't think I was authentic to myself until my 30s, you know, and and I'm still kind of finding new things about myself that I didn't know before. But I I, and it wasn't because my growth wasn't fostered, it was because I tampered it down because of fear, because I didn't understand. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

And in the home environment, as a parent or mentor, you're giving them permission to be their authentic self because when they go into the bigger world, I mean, even probably as early as preschool, they're gonna be learning other people aren't talking about this, other people aren't seeing this. So they're automatically gonna go into, oh, here I have to be quiet. They're gonna learn their own boundaries, but they have to have somewhere they can share it. And I think that is the point to drive home here. Absolutely, you know, yeah, make that safe place for them.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

And if you did get scared and and freaked out, I'm telling you, you didn't harm your kid, and it's way more harmful to tell the kid that they're special, right? And they have a gift.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Well, you're I mean, you're you're putting a label on something that doesn't necessarily need a label, so I agree.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Well, and then you're you're saying that they're above everybody too, and that does so much harm for that kiddo.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

It's kind of like a sweet spot in between. You're either gonna be telling them that they're special and above everybody else, or you're gonna be like, I don't want to hear it. You can't do really either of those things. You've gotta you gotta be balanced there right in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Love that.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

And it's funny, I'll just share this here. It kind of relates. And it because we've been talking about fear and working with people who haven't had the experience. Today we're talking about younger people. But the other day I was with a loved one. Uh, we were traveling in a hotel room, and I thought I caught something out of the corner of my eye, but I dismissed it just like, oh no, I probably didn't see that. It's probably my reflection. Well, this other person in the room, all of a sudden's like, Michelle, there's a person in this room right now. And I'm like, what? And I got scared in that moment. I couldn't talk to him about it in that moment because I could feel myself getting worked up. So I had to go through it mentally. And I do this all the time. And I had to wait till the next day when we were out of that space to ask him. And he's like, Yeah, I saw it. And then I was jealous. And I'm like, what? Like, I've never seen a full person right in front of me. And you you're giving me details of what the person's wearing, how old they were. It was a male. And I'm like, that is so cool. And just being really excited for the experience. But he was more like, Yeah, okay. Well, he didn't get a little excited afterwards. He didn't get interested or curious about it. Not like me. I'm telling everybody. And he's just like, Yeah, it happened. Okay. But I was still surprised that I stepped immediately into fear and I couldn't talk about it in that moment, that I had to process it in order to have a conversation later. And it's okay to take a minute. It's okay to take a minute with like someone your own age or or kids. If you need that minute, take it. Think about what you're going to say and how you want to react.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Do you think it's because he kind of teeters of believing and not believing?

SPEAKER_00 23:37

No, you know, I've been listening to this conversation and it wasn't until I was older, you know, that I opened up. And he's the first person who ever said to me, I don't totally understand it. I support you because I've seen what happens when you're around. Tell me about it. So kind of like what Stacey was saying as parents, we should say to our kids, it's like he gave me that permission when I was an adult to tell me more what else all of your own people are.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

It wasn't like, you know, he asked me not to talk about it when people are around. I'm like, yeah, I know my boundaries. But he he wanted to hear about it. He's never said, I don't want to hear about it, or that's too weird. It makes all the difference. And as an adult, I've seen it makes all the difference. So thinking of a kid who, you know, we're guiding them, we're pulling them through life. We are seeing the bigger picture. We're we're putting those boundaries of protection around them to have that support at a young age. How amazing is that?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

It could be a good place to wrap it up, but you know, before we do, we need to just briefly share that in the episode that we're gonna release in two weeks, we are celebrating a milestone. It will be three cups and a dash of spirituality's one year mark. It doesn't feel like it at all.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

It doesn't it feels like three months to me. It really does feel like three months. I mean, it's that's because we have so much fun when we record. So yeah, I'm excited. I can't believe it's been a year.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

I know, and everything that is yet to come, which you know, time will tell. But how fun is that? Well, so it's time. Well, Stacey, take it away here. Stay classy, stay sassy, stay badassy until next time. Bye everyone.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Bye guys.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Bye guys.