When Coincidence Feels Divine

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey everyone, on this week's episode of Whispers from the Mist, Conversations from the Spiritual Byway, Stacy couldn't join us today, so my friend Bonnie D'Angelo is stepping in as a guest co-host. Bonnie recently had an experience that raised some interesting questions about angels, and she's joining me today to share her story. We'll also answer a listener question and explore a few discussion topics that invite us to think more deeply about our own experiences, beliefs, and the ways we make meaning out of the unexplained. So grab your favorite cup of something warm, get comfortable, and join us as we continue this conversation along the spiritual byway. Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of Whispers from the Mist: Conversations from the Spiritual Byway. I'm Michelle, and today I am not here with Stacy. Weather has kept her away, but I'm here with Bonnie, my friend Bonnie D'Angelo.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Hi Bonnie, how are you? Hi, Michelle. I am so good and so excited to see you. This is like third time this week. Like, I'm so excited. How special.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

I know. It's been a while since we've connected, and you reached out to me and you told me that you had an angel experience. But the crazy part of that is you told me like the day our episode released or the day after. And I'm like, wait, I gotta hear all about it. So you said you'd come on and share it.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I definitely need to share it with you because it it was so in line. And and like you said, you had just recorded that episode and it kind of like brought everything together, which was really cool. Really cool. So shall I just start? Yeah, please. Okay. So a little, I need to do a little backstory because it really it's important. I go to school about an hour and a half from where I live. So I have to drive there and back. It's an hour and a half long. Now I have a Tesla, which means I need to stop and charge my car when I come home. Okay. So knowing that now my daughter was visiting and she was going to be leaving on a Thursday, and I knew I had to be at school, but I wanted to take her to the airport. So the only way it could line up was if I changed out my car for a gas car, right? Because her flight was leaving at a time where if I had to stop and charge my car, I wouldn't have got home in time to take her. So I said, I'll just drive the car with gas and make sure I have a full tank and I can just cruise all the way home and be home in time to take you to the airport. And instantly I said to myself, Nope, that's not gonna work. Because if there was an accident or if there's something going on in the highway and I would be late, then you wouldn't make it to the airport. So I I squashed that and we we figured out another way for her to get to the airport. Unfortunately, I couldn't take her. But we found her away. So fast forwarding now to the actual Thursday, I'm driving home and I stop at the charging station and I charge my car so that I can get home with enough miles on it. And then I'm back on the highway after the charge, and I come into traffic and I'm like, uh, traffic. So I'm like, okay, what am I gonna listen to? I can listen to music. I said, I wonder if I have a an episode of your podcast downloaded. So I looked and I said, Oh, there's one here. So I I just I said, okay, let's listen to this podcast. And it was about angels. And I listened to it while I sat in traffic for about 25 minutes to half an hour. And it was fine. I, you know, I went through the traffic and everything like that. And, you know, I'm thinking to myself, what a great episode. It was really a beautiful episode, and it was great. And then I got home from school, I ended up calling my daughter. She was at the airport already waiting for her flight. And I said, you know, it's a good thing that, you know, we found you an alternate way to get there because there was an accident on the highway and I would have been late. And then I'm like thinking to myself, well, no, if I had the other car, then I would have been able to cruise right through. And I wouldn't have been late because I would have missed the accident. But then I'm like, but would I have missed the accident? Because I would have been driving through at the time that the accident may have taken place. Right. So I sat there for a moment and then I remembered I was listening to your angel episode. And I'm it just it just kind of like in in like a very like methodical way, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I just saw everything kind of line up in a way that angels were there for me to know better not to take the car because I would I have been in that accident? I don't know. See, I was like thinking, I'm like, I mean, the accident had just taken place because the cop cars were were there and and and I know that I would have been in that certain area at exactly the same time or you know, similar timing. And so I s I sat on the couch for a minute and I'm like that that seems very, very divine kind of uh divine kind of feeling, like there was some guidance there for me. And then I remembered you saying that you had just recorded it and it was released that day. I was listening to it on my car. And normally in Spotify, I have to download in Wi-Fi before I can even listen and and and receive that podcast to listen to. So I didn't download it, it was just released. So it just kind of like made sense to me that the angel podcast was playing during this accident, where maybe it could have, I could have been involved in a way and it I didn't even download it. And I'm just like, you know what? That's wild. That is like divine intervention, I feel like obviously we'll never know, but my gut is telling me that I was told not to take that other route or that other car to get home faster.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

And I have severe goosebumps listening to your whole story and how you're explaining it because I can almost see the pieces dropping into the puzzle as you put everything together. And, you know, first of all, it was the mother's intuition or that initial gut, no, we're not gonna do it this way. I just have, and it's not even you had a bad feeling about it. It just felt unsettling, like it wouldn't work. So you found alternative arrangements. Uh, you went about your day, you did your regular routine, and then ended up getting stuck in traffic caused by an accident that had you not waited 30 minutes to charge, it could have been you.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Could it have been uh yeah, and and like you said, as as I was sitting on the couch when I got home, I saw it. I'm like, I saw all the pieces, I saw the conversation with my daughter, I saw the the thought process of I can't, I can't do that because she will never get to the airport in time if I if she doesn't have the car here. And and then I'm like, and I was listening to that angel episode. And the angel episode had just aired that day, and I don't know how it was available. So it was it was fascinating and it was like it was a beautiful, beautiful like validation.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

I love how it all came together for you. When you were talking just a few minutes ago, you also mentioned that you may never know for sure if that is what the case would be because you trusted your instinct and you didn't have to find out the hard way. And many times when we are running late or we are delayed, we are frustrated. You know, we immediately step into I am so frustrated and so mad about this and a little bit of anger. I mean, that's me anyway. And I always just try to remember, hey, slow down. There's a reason. Yeah, there's a reason for everything.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Exactly. I I do have another angel story that happened a few years ago. Do you want to hear that? Yeah, of course. Okay. So it was it's a beautiful story. Okay. I had a little shihutsu. She was 16. And she I could tell that she was she was, you know, almost ready to go. And there was a time when I was I was at home alone, and it was, you know, like nine o'clock at night, and she was resting on the on her bed on the floor, and I didn't want to go to bed. I didn't want to leave her because I felt like, oh, this I this is her last night. I felt it, it was her last night with us. So I asked her angels, I asked for Archangel Michael to come in and hold her, keep her comfortable and and and within an instant, like I'm talking like a snap, all the lights in the house shut off. The house went silent for like a second. And it was so powerful, electric in the room. I'm talking electric. All the other animals, we had like four other dogs and a couple cats, they all kind of like went spacey and weird. And even my little Ruby who who couldn't hear or see, she lifted her head up and just looked around. And and sh and I knew I had felt I had fallen to my knees because it was there was so much static in the room. And I I was just like, oh my god, thank you, thank you, thank you. I immediately pulled an oracle card from the Akashic deck. I can't remember exactly what it's called, but Archangel Michael came through in that card pull that I did. So it was amazing. So amazing. And just it was a beautiful, a beautiful thing to help, you know, just I knew she was held. I knew she was held, and she did go that night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

And she wasn't going to trans transition on her own. And it didn't have to be anything big, it was something out of the normal. Probably doesn't happen all the time. Probably hasn't happened since. No. But in that moment, you called in help, and in that moment, you got validation of that. That's a beautiful story.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

It was, it was absolutely like so amazing. And they're they're with us. I know it.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

I just know it. And it makes me breathe a little bit easier knowing they're there. And again, it doesn't have to be something big all the time. I remember this happened the day the Angel episode was released. I have a very bad Diet Coke habit, and I like the fountain one. So in the morning, I was getting in my car to go get one, but I was like gathering all my stuff in the house, and I was like, oh, $3 and a penny. That penny is so annoying. One cent. Well, I should probably get in the car and find that one cent. And I'm having this conversation with myself as I walk out the door. It's not a conversation I ever have with myself. And I walked around to the driver's side of the car, and there was a penny laying by the door. Yep. That doesn't happen all the time.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

That's so wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

It doesn't have to have this big meaning other than like, we hear you and we're letting you know we're here. And I think that's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

There, I can't even put words to it. It it's so incredible.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

It's you felt held, you felt seen, watched over, protected, like you have a buddy with you all the time.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Totally, totally.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Yeah. Love it. And I do love also that when your animal was in those final stages of life, that you did reach out, you did call out to the angels for help. And that was such a big message in our angel episode because it's a big thing. If you want their help, you have to call them in. Because if not, they're gonna let free will take its course. They may try to nudge you, but they're not gonna interfere unless you ask them for help.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Totally, totally. And you know what? I I did not call in angels for this trip. I don't like I didn't, but they were there.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

When you step back to look at the pieces, it's almost like there was an energetic pool as it put them into line that here's all the things, it's how it's lining up. So just trust.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Totally. Yes, but you gotta do it.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

I know. Especially when you're in the habit of just walking into discernment. Like, is that something that really happened? Did I just witness and experience that? So I know the fact that it had that energetic zing to it, I think I think it's so incredible. Totally.

unknown 13:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Well, you are here today. So I was wondering if perhaps we could go over listener question and then a couple other discussion questions that I have. Would you be willing to help me out?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Okay. Well, I did get permission to read this question, and I will share what the question is, and then I will respond to my answer. And of course, after I answer, I'm like, oh, there's so much more I could have said. But maybe you'll say it and maybe I'll still get a chance to. But this was the question. As a Christian, I've been doing this off and on for almost 20 years, but I am very conflicted by doing it. I've been told it's okay, not okay, demonic, a gift from the prophets. I personally don't believe it's demonic, and it would take too long for me to explain everything on here. But I was once told I was full of demons because I had a mold allergy, and when I walked into our church, I would get stuffed up and I couldn't breathe. I tend to believe in incorporating different things with my Christian beliefs, but I'm not sure what to think about it sometimes. So that was the question. And the response that I shared was, thank you for the question. I feel many people experience something similar when opening opening up spiritually. I know I've struggled to make sense of everything and how the pieces all come together. Over the years, I've been able to incorporate some of what I've experienced with my religious upbringing and my beliefs. It doesn't always fit neatly into a box, but I stay open to understanding and growing in both my faith and spirituality. I still go to church, I still pray to God, but I also remain open. In regards to other people, I've been questioned or even feared because of my spiritual thoughts on things. Those remarks hurt, but I know my heart and what I've experienced. So I'm going to stay open and authentic. Things will continue to unfold and evolve, and we will continue to grow in our understanding of it. But please know this, you're not alone. So what do you think? How how would you or what advice could you give to this listener?

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Well, I have never really been a religious. And trust in your own feelings and and how it makes you feel in your body. But I can imagine there's a lot of like thoughts that are pulling you in directions and you're not sure where to go. But this is spirituality is not something that happens overnight and it's it's a process that kind of just builds, but just trust in how you're feeling and and find somebody that maybe you can talk to and and share with openly. I think sharing and talking about things openly without judgment or without, you know, any kind of you know response that is needed, just being able to openly talk about things helps as well. Does that make sense at all?

SPEAKER_01 17:09

It does. And I was listening to you and I was thinking about this person and how they know their intention. They know that their heart is in the right place and they're being authentic to them. And they are not denying the experiences that they are having. I believe where religion is concerned, that God He made us the way we are. And so for me, that's kind of where I started. And then I kind of tried to meld and mold everything together. And sometimes it fits beautifully, as I said, sometimes it doesn't. But then I just have to listen to where I'm guided. I know I'm not doing anything to call an evil. I'm protecting myself. And my intent is to help other people. And I also believe that, you know, religion, a lot of it is confined to not all of it. This is not going to come out right. It's not going to come out pretty, but you have the Bible that experiences were written in, and you have what man says about it that are religious. But we also have other books out there about spirituality. And I think everything's evolving. I think, you know, when someone writes a book and it gets a little bit dated, they create a revised edition of that book. And I think there is a bigger story out there to tell, and it just can't be contained with man-made words.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

I love the way you put that. That makes so much sense. Definitely. And you can draw on so many different uh like there's so many different religions out there, and you just have to find what, like you said, what's in your heart and and know that what I'm doing is is what's best for what I need. And I I know my intentions are good. So that's that's well said.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Thank you. I also want to say in a past episode, we were talking about the different cultures, like the Western, the Eastern, indigenous, and how when somebody is going between cultures, I'm gonna use the word monsters or the dimensionals or the aliens, they're all going to fit within that religion. So you're not gonna go into Eastern culture and have a western villain, or I I don't know how else to say it, but it really is defined by that religion that you're in, what you fear, what you feel safe with.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Yes. And and like I said, religion is is hard for me to really talk about. I mean, talk on the subject because I've never really followed a certain religion, but I know that there's a lot of different views on God. There's a lot of different views on spiritualities, there's a lot of different views on demonic energy or or or whatnot. So it it's really, you know, I I felt like I needed to take it on myself and where I fit into all of these pieces and what feels right for me. Might not feel right for you, you or you, but it feels right for me. And I just gotta trust that, trust that that is, you know, I could follow that and trust it.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

And I was just going to double down on what you said there, because it it is true. What you experience and see as your religion or your spirituality is going to be totally different than mine. There'll be places that we overlap and we agree, but we're not going to agree on everything. And that's okay because we see the world through different eyes. We've had different experiences growing up, and you know, we all take in information differently.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Yeah. It totally is true. It totally is true. Because one person can see this and the other person sees the same thing, but they're completely different. And that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

It's definitely okay. And it really hasn't been many years that I could say that or see that in other people. I always thought everyone was just like me and we all had the same filters, but no, millions and millions of filters.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yeah. And for me with religion, and I'm we might be going off topic, but for the longest time I I did not I did I couldn't talk about God. It it it was it was a weird word for me. And this must be going back in like past childhood things, but but now now I'm I feel that I I can see it in a different way and it makes sense to me now. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

And God can be referred to in different ways. He can be Buddha. He can be the universe. I mean source. I mean, there's so many other words that we can use to describe that feeling of God. And you hear me bring being brought up as a Lutheran, he, he, he. Well, that's how we've been taught. He's a male figure, but you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Again, they're female. He's a she to some, but yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

And as we've been talking, especially in the angel episode, they appear how we expect them to appear. And I know, you know, people probably aren't happy that I'm saying, oh, he can be source or he can be the universe. But in my mind, they're somewhat interchangeable. But my faith always brings me back to God.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Understand, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

So it's a it's a very, very interesting topic, and there's so many levels and and layers to it.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

I definitely agree with that. Well, do you want to move on to a couple more of these discussion questions? Yes. Okay, so I think this question is a really good one. I've had one experience in my life that I still can't explain. Why is it that some people seem to have paranormal experiences all the time while others never seem to have them? Oh isn't that good?

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Oh, yeah. Oh, because you know, I want them all the time, but I don't get them all the time.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

That is exactly what I'm thinking here. Like, I'm one of those people who complain I don't get them enough, but I just have to slow down and pause a little bit and they're there.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Yeah. So why is that? Well, I I think it's it's in our experiences, I think. The things that we've experienced through our lives. I believe it's how open you may be or how fearful you may be. And and timing. I mean, I always believe that you're not shown things that you're not supposed to see for whatever reason. So it's those are my reasons that I think that that happens.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

And I agree with everything you said. I think timing is really important. I think there is a fear around it for some people because I can sit here and tell you, oh, I don't have a fear about that. I don't have a fear about seeing a ghost or a spirit, but in the moment, I have pulled back. Like I've seen something start to form in front of me. I'm like, oh no, I'm not ready for this. And it only takes that second to pull back. I do think your guide team knows exactly how much you can take at any one time and what might be too much. And so maybe it'll be a slower build up to where you want to be. I think it's also about raising your vibration. If you're constantly putting expectation on it, if you're constantly being negative or getting frustrated with it, you're putting blocks out there.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Yes. And speaking of blocks, I mean, you could have so much going on in your life that you are oblivious to the little things because they are little things. And if if your mind is, you know, full of clutter, if you have, if you're busy, busy, busy, busy, and you haven't allowed yourself to take time to sit with you and your body and your breath. Because sometimes those moments are just little. They're just little and you could miss it. You could totally miss it. I I had an experience here at my house. I was in the kitchen and I looked up, and for an instant, like I'm talking like Milly, Mill, millisecond, I thought I saw you know those mechan mechanic suits, like the mechanics wear those one piece jumpers. And I thought I saw a a guy, like somebody, I didn't see the head, it was just the jumpsuit. And I almost dismissed it. And I'm like, oh we and then I had to sit with it and and and but yeah, if you're not if you're too cluttered, I think that really that really stops the experiences as well. Or not stops the experiences, but it it kind of clouds them.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

And out of the peripheral vision, seeing things, so many people uh experience that. But then it's easy to write off because now you have no tangible evidence in front of you. That thing is not standing there. And you know, a lot of people want to start with the big moments. They watch these ghost hunting shows, but believe me, I've listened to enough interviews, I've watched enough of these shows where the hosts themselves will say, you're seeing 45 minutes of a two-day investigation, and we're out there constantly debunking it. And when something happens, it does seem big, but it it doesn't always happen. Some of these visits are very quiet, and we've experienced that ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

Totally, yeah. Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah. Well, let's find another question. Have you ever walked into a place and immediately felt uncomfortable? How do you know whether that spiritual energy, intuition, or simply just your imagination? Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

So yes, walking into the Sally house, I instantly felt uncomfortable. And it felt like I was walking into like thick mud. Like it was it was really like thick air and instantly hair standing up on my arms. So I knew that was spiritual. I knew there was something present because we were going into a haunted house. But yeah, usually it it takes a moment to register. So it's it's not an instant feeling when it happens. It it's it just takes a moment to kind of like, what was that? And you sit with it and then you still listen to your you have to listen to your gut. You you listen to your intuition and your body, and then you have to trust it.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

And I think your intuition is immediately picking up on those cues, but your nervous system is picking up on them also, as you said. And the Sally House is the perfect example. I think we need to go back and do a whole episode on that again because it's been a while, but it stays in my heart and in my mind. It takes up space still. Um, but when we walked in there, I immediately went from fresh, beautiful day outside to stale is what it felt like. That's the only word I can use to describe it. There was a smell, there was a heaviness. Like I'm trying to recall it and put it into words right now. And there was that little bit of a mud feeling, but kind of almost like time has slowed down and it's just not circulating or moving the air in the space. It that one definitely felt like, hey, let's take a moment of pause here. There's something going on, and how lucky are we that we get to spend the night in it?

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Yeah, yeah. That was that was an experience. But yeah, I think it's paying attention to the little things all the time. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. It I mean, and and we're in our human life a lot. So it's one of those things that, you know, when they when they come through, you'll notice them.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

You definitely will. And I know being an empath doesn't help because walking into a room after somebody just had a fight, it just feels uncomfortable. I mean, I'm getting uncomfortable even talking about it. Or I was on a phone call with somebody recently and she was telling me she was taking a trip. I'm like, oh, this is medical related. I know it is. Like I just knew in my gut, like I just could feel something. And it turns out, unfortunately, that was the case. But yeah, you learn to work with your intuition and to step into those feelings and how to differentiate.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Recall something you shared when you were on a trip. I can't remember where you were, but you were walking through this place, and and I think you said, I think there's a spirit here. And then the tour guys talked about the spirits that were in the in the place. So you picked up on that. I don't I don't remember how you felt it, but I remember you sharing that. So it's just little things like that.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

It's so interesting, Bonnie, that you brought up that experience that I had in Japan because in an upcoming episode, Stacy and I are going to be talking about haunted dolls. And there is one from Japan, and I insisted that I be the one that follows her story, that does the research on it. And it actually ties back to my experience.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Yeah. It it blew my mind. So maybe it'll blow someone else's mind. But I wasn't expecting it. I just saw a list of dolls. I'm like, I want to do these, and I'm like, oh, that's my story. That's where I was. Same story. So very cool.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

Yeah. Those those uh synchronicities are so cool.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Yeah, something for everyone to look forward to, I hope. Okay, well, we have time for one more question if you're up for it. Yes. Okay. Can loved ones really send signs after they pass, or are these experiences more about helping us process grief?

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Oh. I think both.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

I do too.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Both. Yeah. That's powerful when they do come through. Because it's it's kind of like validation that they're they're still with us. There's still like there's still energy that we can call on, that we can remember, that we can connect with. I think it's just beautiful when that happens. It is absolutely amazing.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

I do too. And I remember this one time, and I have probably shared it on the podcast, but I was listening to something on it, it was a Sally House. Come to think of it, before we went to the Sally house, I was listening to a special on it, and they brought in this person who works with audio EVPs. And for some reason, I'm like, I have got to book with him. I was so excited to do it. And he had dates closer, but I picked this particular date, and my aunt sadly passed like the day before my appointment with him. So the timing of it, I'm like, that's really weird. And then I'm like, she's who I want to hear from, but I've always been told, give him some time to adjust to heaven, give him some time to adjust to the whole process. So I wasn't expecting her to come through, but she did. And she left messages that could later be validated. So I do think they can come through. I guess that's not really answering the questions about signs, but again, there is a buzz around it. When a sign comes through from a loved one, it just feels different because you just know you don't even have to go through that discernment process. You know, my loved one.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

I have a story. My daughter's husband's family always finds dimes when a loved one is showing them that they're there. So his grandmother passed and his dad was going to the bathroom and found a dime behind the bat, the toilet.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Oh, weird.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Weird, right? Yeah, yeah. They find dimes all the time. There was some a few other ones they told me about that were just random places for dimes, but I just I think it's wonderful because it's it's just it's just bringing their memory back. And and I remember I was I've been doing it's been a while since I've done a mediumship reading, but being able to share things that I wouldn't necessarily know when somebody's grieving or or they need that message or they just need confirmation that you know this is what this is what I saw is was this my my grandmother, my mom, my dad, or whatever. And being able to bring that up without knowing what that sign was, they're like it it's so heartfelt. It really is. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

And for all of you out there, Bonnie D'Angelo, we will put her information in our notes so you can reach out to her. She's a very talented medium psychic. She does Reiki, she does sound baths, she does a little bit of everything. And now she's adding massage.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

Yes. It it's it's needed. It definitely, I love it. I love everything I do.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

I love it. I mean, you're learning to bring the mind, body, spirit together, and that's so beautiful. Um, I just want to touch on that last question just for a moment. And it's kind of been a theme throughout this episode. If you're looking for those signs from your loved ones, they don't have to be grand. And when you're putting so much expectation, like I told them to reach out to me and I haven't heard from them. Maybe it's the expectation blocking you because there are probably little things happening that you just haven't noticed yet. So take a moment to pause, to breathe, know that they love you, trust in that, remember what it feels like to be in their presence, to be with their energy. And I think that's a way of kind of calling them forward to just stepping into the energy and the memory of them.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

I totally agree. The expectation can actually block that awareness that you you're missing, or or things that get clouded when you have that expectation so high.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Yeah. Definitely. Well, thank you for being here today to go through these questions and to share your insight. I'm so excited to announce or remind the listeners that in just a couple weeks, Bonnie and myself and a few other friends are going to be stepping into the Warren House and the Occult Museum that is now owned by Matt Reif and Elton Castie. And I hope I'm saying the name right. And in a future episode, you and I are gonna sit down and discuss what we know about the house and what we're excited about and if we can type back the past experiences.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Yeah, I'm I'm excited. That's gonna be so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

And I'm so happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah, I'm happy to see you and to have you here helping me. Thank you so much for that. Okay, well, with all that, why don't we close out this episode? Bonnie, will you help me out?

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Sure. Stay curious.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Trust what you know, and we will see you along the spiritual byway. Until next time, everyone. Bye. Thank you so much for me. Thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us and walk in the stretch of the spiritual five. Wherever you are in your journey right now, just know you're not alone. We're here for you, and we're all in this together.