The Spirituality of Animals

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Hey everybody and welcome to this episode of Three Cups at a Dash of Spirituality. Today we're going to talk about pets and how they may interact both spiritually and otherwise. Tune in and let's play the music. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of Three Cups in a Dash of Spirituality. Happy New Year to everybody. This is very exciting. It is, I guess, our first episode of 2024. So with me today, I have the fabulous Carissa. Hey. And the wonderful Michelle. I'll take wonderful. Hey Stacy. Hi, Carissa.

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How are you guys doing?

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Good.

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Well, hard to believe it's 2024 already and that we've been doing this little thing for like six months or so. Has it really been six months?

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yes.

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I guess I didn't realize that. And we have so much more to come in 2024. I'm super excited. That's a little teaser, by the way. Like teasers. I like throwing them out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

I know we are going to be talking about pets and their connection to spirituality and all that great stuff. And we've got some fun stuff to look at today, but I just want to check in with you guys. How are you guys doing? I'm pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

I've been studying astrology. Classes start January the 8th, holiday season, busy busy.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Michelle? Yeah, no, it's been crazy. There's so much going on that the spiritual stuff got really, really quiet for a while. And I was again in my human mind, like, this is done. They're done with me. I've served my usefulness. Yet here I am now, like it's coming back in. And I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

I love that so much. Well, I wanted to share with you guys. I know we didn't meet in December because of travel and stuff like that. I wanted to share back at Thanksgiving. I got an entire day of day drinking in, and it was glorious with my entire oh, I bet that was fun. So planned. It was great. Bloody Mary's transitioning into Martinis. It was it was just amazing. I I probably make myself sound like such a lush, but I don't drink that often, but it was so much fun. We had such a good time. Did you have a crazy uncle?

SPEAKER_02 2:11

No. I have a crazy uncle at the weddings or stuff like that, who always stands to.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

You know, I guess in a way I'm blessed because my family is is not in New Hampshire with me. So I don't get to see the crazy, the crazies that often unless I go and visit them. Well, hopefully they're not listened.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

You know, I think my husband might be the crazy uncle. I think that's how my kids see him, but like in a fun, loving, always an adventure kind of way. I could see my husband being that for our nieces and nephews as well. That that's kind of fun. Yeah. Well, do you want to hear a really human story that happened to me over the holiday season? Just real quick. I kind of went out on my front yard decorations this year. House is always decorated like red and white lights, the railings are all decorated. But this year we put in like a lot of snowmen and it just kept growing. Reindeer, Santa climbing a tree. And our house looked like Clark Griswold. It looked like Christmas threw up in our front lawn. And I was so proud of it. I called the newspaper, nominated myself for like house of the week or something for people to do on their driving tour. And then we had a windstorm. Oh it blew everything out of my yard, which was very frustrating. I was able to retrieve most of the pieces. And as soon as I got everything back and put away in my garage, the newspaper came out. And my house was listed number one, like the first stop on the lighting tour. And it has no lights up now, or it had no lights up. Oh no. The lights are up, just not the extra decorations in the yard. So did you get everything back though? Everything's back, but it's all broken and it'll take time to put back together. And so I just yeah. But how embarrassing! Like my first name, last name in the paper, my address. Go buy this house for a light show. And it's like the duttiest thing now.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

So you get lights and you put a sign up with the lights around it, and you just say windstorm took them.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

I was just thinking that.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

I forget it. Yeah, but I let my ego get in there thinking, like, this is really great. People enjoy seeing the house. They probably can see it anyway. There's so many lights.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

And I don't think that's ego at all. I think that's sweet for the kids, too. That's what it was like for me growing up. It's like my grandfather had a six foot two um moving Santa Claus. Huge. I can't, I don't even know how tall it was, but it was um Mrs. Claus riding with the cowboy hat, riding an armadilla. Huge, like huge, huge. And it's like everybody competed, but it was fun competition because it was for the kids. I don't see that anymore.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

I I have to like own something to you both because this is gonna make me like sound like the biggest Grinch in the entire world because we don't spend Christmas typically at home. I don't decorate at all. I don't even we don't even get a Christmas tree for our house. We do nothing in in our house whatsoever. And it's not that I don't like Christmas, it's that I just putting it up just to take it back down to not even really be able to enjoy it with how busy we are. I'm like, I'm just good. I'm good. So I'm I'm probably look like the nastiest cringe ever. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Or we better jump into these pets because I feel like people are gonna be fast-forwarding, like, oh god.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

So we're talking we're talking today about pets and spirituality. Who wants to kick us off?

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Well, we have two videos. What I really like about these videos is I have one where uh many times my dog has picked up that something's in the house before me. Because we all know how pets are world very sensitive to that stuff. And I have a video where he's almost look like she's she's sniffing. Like you'll see the video of what is here. And then when my dog calmed down, my camera zoomed in and out, like someone was trying standing right in front of it. Should we just cue the video? So something's there. Usually she's just chilling, it's moving, and then there goes my screen in and out, and then she had an inch, and then she had an itch. How cool! And this is also you don't need to go to haunted houses because stuff's gonna be coming in and out of your house.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Don't mean to freak you out, guys, but right? You're not wrong. I mean, I was actually meeting with somebody yesterday who was opening up to spirituality, and she's like, Yeah, we're seeing things everywhere, and my kids are telling me to stop doing what I'm doing. And I was like, protect yourself, protect your house, and you won't have those experiences anymore.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

I mean, knock on wood. I have not had anything dark ever come through. It's typical. I don't Stacey's got that look. Well, I don't know about you, but I have but you know, they're they're maybe angry or just want attention, but I haven't the worst kind of what all of all.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

I just want to tell you that. Oh, is it? Like I like the hard stuff. Uh Reed had that however he wants. There we go.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Yeah, uh, Michelle, I'm studying astrology, and so I have to get friends' charts. And if something I don't know if true, I have to call and ask them. Well, I called Stacy, and I was like, Well, it says in your chart, blah blah blah. Is that true? She just starts chuckling.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

I think Stacy's blushing anyway. Stacy also has a very intuitive pup, as do I. And Stacy, tell us a little bit about Astrid.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

So I don't have a cool video of Astrid, but I will tell you that she is actually the one alert that I got whenever I had an attachment. So this is why I was making the face when Carissa said, I've never had anything negative, you know, come through my house, maybe angry things. And I'm over here going, Well, I got an attachment. The bitch attached to me, and my dog is the one that let me know that I had the attachment. So she definitely will let us know. I remember one day my husband and I were sitting in our living room, and she jumped up and she was just staring down the hallway, barking, going absolutely nuts. And there was nothing, like there were no noises. There was no, there was, there was really nothing happening. Um, and I actually looked up and I had to tap in and I was like, Oh, we've got a dude chilling in our our hallway right now. I've got to clear him. And my husband was like, Wait, what? And I was like, Don't worry, I'll take care of it. It's fine. And like 20 minutes later, the dog calmed down and she came and snuggled, and he was like, Is it gone? And I said, Oh, yeah, it's gone. It's fine. And he was like, Oh, okay. And he was just really confused. But my dog was was really looking alerting and and going crazy about with it.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

I was gonna ask, because you do a lot of protection stuff, especially for the readers. I feel like, or the readers, sorry, the listeners may have this question. How do you think you got that attachment? Because I don't work with attachments, but you do, Stacey. And you see it typically takes time, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yep. So I got the attachment because my guides needed me to understand what the experience feels like. Um, so it was actually in the very beginning of working with attachments and clearings and things along those lines. Because when I do attachment clearings on a person, understanding what they are experiencing from that spiritual level is kind of it is kind of important because it allows you to kind of put yourself in their shoes. Because when you're removing an attachment from somebody, you're actually creating kind of a void. And Michelle, I know you can speak to this a little bit as well, but you're taking away something that is it has been there for sometimes you don't even know how long. So when you take something away, you have to understand what it is like to have that space kind of there. And and from that, I learned with the experience of having an attachment that you actually have to fill that space. And Michelle, I'm gonna invite you to speak to that a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Yes, I I had an attachment while I was going through my training with Bo. It's a long story. I would dive right in, and maybe there'll be a future episode where I can share this. But I had gone into meditation to meet my grandma. And while I was there, I went from being totally happy in me to having a feeling like this is not right. These thoughts are not my thoughts. So pulling myself out of my meditation and just feeling a little bit different, but I was really busy. A story kind of started to come through with this attachment. I didn't realize she was still there. She hid it pretty well until I couldn't deny it anymore because those words were getting louder and louder. Her thoughts were getting louder and louder, and I knew they weren't mine. And I felt a sense of desperation. I felt a sense of like, what is this? This isn't how I feel. Like, if my grandma heard me thinking like this, I'm the most horrible person. My grandma's one of my guides. So it really was a feeling of I'm trying to exist and I have a lot of thoughts coming in that aren't mine. They don't feel right. And Stacy helped clear me of that attachment.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

And what was it like to feel fill the void? Was there that fill that space?

SPEAKER_03 11:32

I just remember, you know, I had reached out to Stacy ahead of a Reiki session, said, I think I have an attachment. And then next morning she came back to me and said, You definitely do. So when I go to remove her, you're gonna feel that struggle, you're gonna feel that pull, which I kind of did. I even saw her. She was there. I felt like she was holding on to my arm and then she was gone. And it felt just like instantly those thoughts that weren't mine were gone. That's it, it was very cyclical. It just kept, I mean, it was very looped. Everything she said was looped. And once it was gone, that was gone. And it took a minute of pause to be like, okay, yeah, I'm good, I'm clear. And she, I don't want to scare listeners. It wasn't yeah, like she was at me every day, but there hit a date, which was actually an anniversary date of when she passed, that at that point it wouldn't stop and it just kept going. And I lived with it for about a week.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Yeah, it's like it's like a slow trickle whenever you get an attachment. It's not anything that happens significantly. It's not like it's not like in the movies. And you know, what I'll throw out there is whenever I've done attachment theories, which I've I've actually done several, I remove the spirit or the entity or whatever it is. And I actually typically will replace it with what my guides tell me the person needs confidence, love, understanding, balance, support, you know, anything, any like encouragement, anything that that, you know, energetically they need in that moment. So I remove the negative entity or whatever and replace it with higher vibrational thought processes. So I know we're we're here talking about dogs, but there's only there's one more thing that I want to throw out there is you have to remember that attachments are typically humans that are stuck here. So the they're stuck here with a more negative vibration. So whenever they connect in with somebody, it's because they see something within that person's vibration that they're drawn to. So it's like a magnetic attraction. It's not necessarily that you are bad, it's not necessarily that you are in a bad space, it's just something that is in your vibration that they are drawn to. So a great example of this would be somebody that could be controlling, getting an attachment of a spirit that is stuck in that controlling space and needing to kind of take over things and just do. They see that potential latch on, and you see the human kind of become more of that negative kind of emotional controlling.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Now it kind of heightens now.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

But what I will say is, like Stacey, when she got her attachment, it was part of a lesson. Mine was part of a lesson, also. I had met my grandma. That it's a huge intertwined story. It's bigger than this half an hour right now to share. But I think my grandma knew that was gonna happen and that I needed to experience what it felt like. So then I wouldn't be afraid of it and I could help other people. And again, I was around all the right people. I was still in the course with Bo. I had you all to bounce ideas off. Stacy, I knew could help clear me. So it wasn't like I ever felt I felt desperate at times, but that was that energy, not mine. And I know that. But that even kind of leads into the the whole dog thing too. I'll just really quickly say when I got two black labs, and when we started thinking about getting a lab, I wanted a ghost or dog. I that's what I always would say. I want a dog that helps to alert me if there's something in my house. And I got one. And I remember the first time she really alerted on something. I was sitting at a counter, much like this. There was a door behind me that I couldn't see, doing my own thing. And all of a sudden she let out this bark where I thought someone had just broken into the door behind me. It was protective, it was loud, it was urgent. And I jumped up completely freaked out. My husband's freaked out. And I'm like, I thought someone just came in the door, but there was nobody there. But I had had an experience with somebody else that was bugging Stacy also at the same time. And Stacy's like, No, I know what you're talking about because I just had an experience with that too. So that was the first time my dog alerted me, and that was a little bit scary.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

Well, and you also, I have a video up for you too, of your dog alerting again.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

So okay, so this is Bexley, and Rob and I are on the couch watching TV, which is in front of us. You can see my husband there, and she's completely distracted. I'm calling her, and she is completely strap distracted by the door back there and watching something.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

She's such a pretty girl.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

She is, but she definitely sees something.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Oh, for sure. You can see that focus. We have a very good friend of ours, too, that does um animal communications. And one of the coolest things is whenever you get to know your animals, you pick up on those subtle nuances of them alerting. And the the video, Michelle, that one of Bex, she's not doing anything huge, but you know her enough to be able to be like, gotcha, something's there.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

What do you see? And I will say that to her all the time, or she just starts barking. And I'm like, okay, what are you barking at? There's nothing there, there's no sounds around you. You're safe, you're good. But yeah, she does let us know. And I just think it's so wonderful that these animals are so highly intuitive. You know, you're going through something, they feel in your body. Like, let's say you're feeling sick to your stomach, you go and sit down, they'll go put their head on your stomach. Like, they're such intuitive animals or, you know, not been taught not to know that something's out there or that there's anything than being normal.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Not always. I had a great Dane who is the biggest dumbass animal ever, but I loved him dearly. So he was a he was the biggest. I'm gonna call him a derp. He would like there would be a ton of spiritual stuff happening around us, and he he wouldn't even notice. He would be like, doop, do, doop, doop, doop. Uh Astrid, on the other hand, Astrid is very connected.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Do you think they make that choice? I do not to see everything or not to be alerted by everything, like they can tell the difference and it just really doesn't affect them. Whereas some are just like, nope, you're in my space.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Well, I think I think one of the the answers to that could actually potentially be the difference between familiar versus a pet. And I know a familiar is technically like that's a very um specific term used for uh I'm gonna say witches because they have their familiars, you know, the black cat you're always hearing about, but you can also see that connection between people with certain animals in their lives. Like I can honestly say that my my dog now, she and I are closer than I've been to any other animal in my life.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

She's my shadow. Oh, yeah, I've had those. I can hear listeners, or maybe that would just be me as a listener, going, Okay, I see my dog doing something. Now what? Okay, don't freak out. Can you sit there and look at it like, oh, this is really a kind of cool experience? And you can choose to protect your space and with your spirit guides, ask them to leave, or you can hold space and work with your spirit guides to help them transition to go home. What does that look like? Sometimes it could be as simple as spirit guides, please closing your eyes, spirit guides, please help me get this person home. What do I need to do? And sometimes an image of a door will open up. You hold space with your guides, your guides hold space with you. It's not a real complicated process. And we're all here to help.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Well, and I'm gonna add to that and say feel into it a little bit too, because sometimes it's not spiritual. Sometimes you have a mouse in your wall or something, and your animal is trying to tell you that there's a noise that they hear and you need to pay attention to it. I say this because I think one of the easiest things to step into is that everything is gonna have a spiritual connection. Everything is a huge message for us. And I think it can become easily like, oh my gosh, I saw this. So obviously I'm gonna hit the lottery today. Always like that.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

So sometimes Yeah, I hear you say stay grounded. Let's be grounded first. Let's look at reality, let's do some critical thinking. And then nothing makes sense. Okay, here it is.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Yeah, because I know if my dog's looking at my front door, oftentimes it's because somebody closed a door up the street. So every time she's looking, I'm not thinking, oh my gosh, it's a spirit. You know, there are certain areas, yeah, there are certain areas of the house that if she's staring at, I know something is potentially going on. So I tap in and figure it out, but it's not always spiritual.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

I love that because I'm a very step-by-step process. So I'm gonna reiterate what you just said to clarify it. You see something, check your surroundings, do some critical thinking. If nothing is making sense and you know your pet, then step into do I want to help the spirit transition home? Or do I want to just get them out of my house in a loving way? I think that's really cool. Grounding first, critical thinking, transition.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Look at that. I like it. I always step trying into debunk too, like Stacy said, use that critical thinking. Like, what else could it be? I mean, I know I simplified it earlier, like you're okay, you don't hear anything, but their hearing, as we know, is much better than ours. So I will walk around and see if there's anything else. But yeah, knowing your pet too, but just knowing how they move their head and how they react to the the room around them on a just baseline and seeing that it's so different. So yeah, gosh.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

So I'm um I have a question for people. Um I'm gonna throw this out to you guys. Um, have you guys noticed any uptick in spiritual activity recently?

SPEAKER_02 21:42

In my house, I mean, with my dog just then, that was last week.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

What about you, Michelle? And I've gone through a little bit of a dry spell and or feeling it was dry, or maybe just being coming too comfortable. But no, I have noticed an uptique or uptique. Up tip. Yeah. And things going on, especially when I'm sleeping or trying to sleep. I reached out to both of you the other day and said I was in bed and I was thinking about something spiritual. And this has happened twice. I'm currently on vacation. So once here and once in my home last week, where I'm thinking and really concentrating, and the bed just starts to shake just a little. And it feels a little bit like a small earthquake, but it's not affecting my husband. And he's not behind me. He's on the other side of the bed. So I don't know what that is. Maybe it's astral travel. Maybe it's someone trying to get my attention. I've got to tap into it a little more.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

And I know Carissa had said that she really wants to experience the bench. I absolutely do not want that.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Here is this wood, big wood, whatever. No.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Well, I'll I'll share with you guys. I noticed, um, I've noticed a pretty significant uptick in in my end of the realm because I know last night alone, um, Astrid in the middle of the night will take off running down the hall if she hears something abnormal. And it was, it happened three or four times last night. And every single time there were no sounds that would have interrupted the night. There was, there was nothing happening that would have had her, that would have set her off. And she takes out, takes off like a bat out of hell, runs into the living room, and it's like she doesn't see anything physical. So she turns around and trots back. And she sleeps at my feet. So it's great because every time she does this, she barks really menacingly, takes off running down the hall, and then trots back and flops on top of me. So there is no sleeping through these experiences. And last night it happened three times.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

You know, so I doodle sometimes so I can hone in on the intuition. So I have a little sheet here on doodle, hang on. And then before right as you were talking, what popped up was location. And what I'm curious now about is because it feels like a big yes, is that sometimes the energy shifts and more there's more of a heightened sensitivity and activity with locations in the world. Um that is definitely a potential. Which then that opens up a behold and I won't go down that street.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

With the uptick though, Astrid really has been like she's the one that's letting me know what's happening. Like, because when I sleep, I I know my protections are up and I know things can't get down in the hallway because I have two different protections at one at both ends of the hallway. So one of them I remove when I'm sitting in my office, and the other one just stays in place all the time. So I know they can't get that far. So her running to the living room is the only space that they could potentially be, which is interesting. So I'm gonna need to figure that out. But I've also uh had a lot of readings and stuff recently that have been very spiritual in nature too, which could be a piece of that, which means I'm I could also be drawing it in.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Well, let me ask you this question. We're talking about pets in our own home and them alerting us, but what about pets out, not pets, but animals out in nature? Like I know the other day I walked out of my house and something just like caught my eye real quick. And I'm like, what was that? And I turned the corner, it was there again, it caught my eye. So something out there was trying to send me a little bit of a message. I know it was spiritual because it had a zing behind it, whereas, you know, just a bat flying by, it just feels different. It it hit my attention three times, almost like a zigzag pattern. I'm like, I don't know what you're trying to tell me, but I'm acknowledging you're there and I'm open to the message.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

So I love that you're saying this because I think this brings up another good point that I'm gonna make is sometimes when we see animals outside, it's not a symbolic thing. Sometimes we just see animals. It feels different when it is something to pay attention to, though. And I think that's what you're there was a zing. There was this like immediate like draw to, oh, I need to pay attention to this. And you know, one of the things that that I was thinking about when you were sharing that is I remember I was out hiking and I love listening to the animals out hiking, but my favorite thing is that I'm not sure if it's squirrels or chipmunks, but they are letting every other animal in the woods know that there are humans there. So you hear the chirps of like the chipmunks or the squirrels alerting everybody, and that's not symbolic. That just it's it's just a really cool thing to listen to. But there was another instance that I was out hiking and we saw a beautiful snowy owl. And it was during the day and not a typical time to be seeing them, and it was, you know, very blatant. So the person that I was hiking with and myself, we paused and we looked at this owl and we just honored it. And it's funny because I get full body chills even showing this. We just honored it and said, Thank you for coming because it felt very like the zing. It and the thing actually followed us quite a bit through the woods, but it felt different than just seeing a snake in our path.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

You know, that's what I love about shamanism too, is because power animals and spirit animals, they bring us so many gifts. And right now I don't know what this is, and this is gonna sound quirky to people. So no, nothing you say is quirky all the time. I or the crow is building a relationship with me. I love that, and don't know what that's about, but I would only hear it sometimes once every three months, and now it's almost like once a week, and so you know, silently within I say, Hello, hello, I'll feed you some raw meat if you like. I'm here, but hello, it's really interesting.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Have you seen it or just heard it?

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Oh, yeah, yeah, but it's not getting real close. But then I was right next to my house. I was at a parking lot, and a crow was right there on the ground. This is this is kind of rare. And I rolled down my window. My daughter's like, Oh my god, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Stuck friends might see you. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

It's a bird, it's just a bird. And I was like, I want to feed it something. And it was very interesting. I said, hello. And again, you know, it made the noise, and it starts hopping towards me while I'm in the car. And I'm like, hello, I'd like to feed you something, and it's hoped. So, you know, I feed it a little bit of food, and and I said, Can I have a piece of your chicken? Because it was her food. No, it's my food, and you're not feeding a bird, it's just a bird. Oh my God, what is the spiritual stuff? Roll up the window. But I love yes, how animals out in the wild, where there is a connection, sometimes they come in to bring you messages, and you know, hawks are really big for me. Yeah, sometimes it's just a hawk, but I gotta tell you, I see one at least once a week.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

But it feels different when it's a message, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Yeah, and it that can come through like color. I know when I'm out walking, if I see a yellow bird, I instantly know that's a message or a red bird. I don't see them all the time, but when I do, I know it's like one of my grandparents trying to get in touch with me. Um, it could be the way a butterfly is flying. I mean, it'll stay and it'll do like up and down or something, like, hey, I'm here like a ball bouncing. And I know that's usually a message of some sort. Um, so it they just feel so different when there's a message there.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

If you're out and you see a random animal and it feels different, like look it up, explore the spirituality behind, explore the symbolism behind it, see what it feels like. If it is like a normal animal that you see, thank it for showing itself to you and just think of it as a hug universe. 1111, 222, 444. If you're seeing them constantly, I'm going to suggest that it's because you're actually looking for them without realizing you're looking for them. And when we're looking for those signs, they will always show themselves and they're not always some significant message, but it is a hug from the universe. It is like a nod to you. So it's always a good feeling, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is a significant nudge.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Yeah, and then you'll eventually figure out what it means for you. Like when I have the repeating numbers, which I don't have all the time, hardly, and it's you're on the right path. And it's like, okay, thank you. You know, like you're not veering off. This is it, you know, this is good. Even though the times may not be good, right? It's like, you're there, you got this.

SPEAKER_03 30:22

Yeah. Yeah. And that's how I really step into synchronicities. I I work with them a lot, they speak to me a lot, but most of the times it's just you're on the right path. This happened. Like two days later, something random related happened. I'm like, it's just confirmation that you're on the right path.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

And and I do apologize if I sound like an asshole saying that, but I see it.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

No, because I feel like it what it what it feels like to me is you're protecting the listeners. And because you can go a little kooka-doo.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

But you know, if you're out in nature and you come across an animal you don't see very often and you want to look up the spiritual meaning, by all means, it'll have some peace, it'll connect you to the universe, as Stacy said, you know, it's just that nudge. Yep, you're on the right track. Yep. And you got to figure out how the universe speaks to you. And one way to do that is trial and error.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

And and the other thing that I'll add to that, Michelle, is when you're looking up the meaning behind things, don't just stick to one source. Because sometimes, like an animal can mean different things in different cultures. So you're gonna want to look across the cultures and see what feels right. Because a lot of times it's a nod, it's a it's a nudge, it's a hug, it's it's uh just a hey, you're on the right path. But it might speak to something specific in your life. So when you do that lookup of the symbolism behind something, if it speaks to something that really feels right to you, that's when you go, okay, maybe this is referring to that fight that I just got into with my boyfriend.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Let me ask you about um an animal that I took as a message. I was in a pretty intense spiritual situation with three other friends, and one single black ant walked across the table. It was a lot of them, yeah, like a dining room table. Like you were there, Chris at the Sally House. Oh, one black ant just walked across the right. I remember just walked across, and we were just so curious is like, where are the rest of the ants? Like it just felt like ominous a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Like is that to me, like, and and this is my interpretation almost immediately as soon as you said that like ants tend to be really work, like ants work, they do a lot of work for you know their their ant family because I can't think of the actual thing.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

I'm your echo today.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

I'm your echo. I appreciate I I need I need me some good backups here. Can you follow me around with a tuba? Yes. It it feels like uh a kind of a a message that you're both you're all working towards something, you know. Ants tend to be really hard workers, so that single ant showing up is it to me feels very symbolic of the work that you were you were kind of learning and doing and going through in that experience, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

And both also like y'all need to, it was also like it's time to wrap things up, yeah. Which is work.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

Yep. There were both ant connections for two of us, too, like our aunties, our ants that way also. So to see the one ant, it was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Is there anything else you guys want to throw out? Sweet. So with that, I'm gonna say stay sassy, stay classy, stay badassy.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Until next time, fun. Bye. Bye.