More Than Halloween: The Season of Connection, Not Fear

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of Three Cups in a Dash of Spirituality. Stacy here, and joining me today is Michelle. Hello, Stacy. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:16

I'm good. How are you? I'm very well. I just miss hearing Kirby says hello, hello, because obviously, or maybe not obviously yet, to our listeners.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

She is not here this week. She had to get some homework stuff done, unfortunately. School. It's that time. That time of year. Everything's changing. Yeah, everything. Seasons are changing with all of the holidays that we've celebrated recently. Things, you know, we're we're moving right along in the year. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

I know it's really hard to believe that we're already into November. Before we move on too much, though, I do want to share my Halloween experience. I did go with my son and future daughter-in-law up to the Stanley Hotel, and we went on a shining tour. Now, what's a cool way to spend Halloween? Now, before I go any further, and I may have admitted this in a past episode, I have never seen the movie The Shining. So the night before Halloween, we watched The Shining. No. We did. And we watched Stanley Kubrick's version, which I had so many questions afterwards. I am not a good person to watch a movie with because I'm like, but that doesn't make sense. Or what does that mean? And I think I was frustrating everyone with me, but I needed answers and I didn't feel like I got any. And then I was just a tad bit disappointed when I found out that version of The Shining was not actually filmed at the Stanley Hotel. Oh, okay. I'm like, why are we even going there? What are they going to have to offer us if it wasn't even filmed there? But the tour is very good. I'm not going to give away any of the secrets because I think if our listeners are out there and they want to go to the tour, they should. It's well worth it. I will say that even though The Shiny wasn't filmed there, it did inspire Stephen King in a room at that location. And, you know, it kind of told his story a little bit and getting stranded there and how that all worked out. So if you want to do something really fun or really kind of creepy, that's something you can do in the future.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Go to the Shining Tour. Did you have any experiences there at all? Anything stick out to you majorly?

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Nothing majorly. I mean, it was just that gut punch feeling, though, when you're driving into Estes Park and up on the hill, you see this massive hotel. And you're like, oh, this is so creepy. And as you get closer, you know, it says a Stanley everywhere. I did see a little energy movement, but I was really focused in more on the tour than on spookiness elsewhere or spirits elsewhere. And we didn't haunt the actual tour. We just went to some places that had significance.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Oh, that's really cool. I mean, that's what a great way to spend Halloween. And I can't believe that's the first time we've ever seen The Shining. I honestly, though, don't think that I've ever watched it all the way through in one sitting.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Well, I understand that. It's creepy. It's F.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

The elevator scene always gave me nightmares.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Well, and that's honestly the reason I've never watched it because I remember as a kid on HBO, they would play it at certain hours, and you always knew when it was coming on because it would show that elevator scene. And I just I couldn't handle it and I was terrified. So it took me all these years to finally sit down and watch it. I had to have people with me and a dog protecting me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

I like I said, I I tend to chop that one up in in view views because I can't, I just can't sit through it. It's it's not even that it's super scary on the the spirit end. It's very psychologically like terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Yeah. And I love how you said chop it up, no pen intended.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

That wasn't even a I I didn't even think about that. You didn't even catch it. It just took me.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

And that that's scary when my mind's like, hey, I got it. But anyhow, I know in our last episode we did Reddit stories. We talked a little bit about an experience I had, which we'll dive into at another time. But we also said we were gonna discuss a little bit more some of the traditions around the world during this time of year. Because yes, it's Halloween here in the United States, but it had to get that way from somewhere. Some somehow they had to come up with these traditions. And, you know, it does have that spookiness to it. But for many cultures around the world, it's a celebration of living. So even though it's after Halloween, we're still in that change of seasons. So I thought maybe we would dive into some of those different cultures or ways they celebrate the living and the dead. Love that.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

So um Dia de los Muertos is a celebration to remain connected with those that have passed. I know a lot of people will sell will celebrate this day by making the departed loved ones favorite meals. Usually there is a shrine for the families. I think if my memory serves, and I could be speaking out of term, but the movie Coco that that was made through Disney spends a lot of time talking about the traditions of the of Dia de los Muertos because it is such, it's so ingrained in in the culture that you don't just lose somebody, you celebrate them every year. And it's it's a day of celebration and loving those beloved, loved ones.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

It is a tradition or a way of life that's been around for about 3,000 years. And it kind of started with the Aztec and those civilizations. And it's a couple days long. Yes. Yes. So on Halloween or October 31st, as they probably call it, it's just a day of preparation. And then it seems like it shifts, and on November 1st it becomes Dia de los Angelitos. Did I say that right? Yeah. And that being a day where they celebrate infants and children who've passed, where then on November 2nd, it does move on to celebrate ancestors and older adults who've passed. Is that how you understand it too? Yes, that's how that's how I understand it as well. Yes. And it really is a time of going to maybe the grave sites of a departed loved one and having a feast or a picnic and having a conversation with them. I know there are lots of festivals that are thrown like in Mexico City and other big cities. And it just seems like such a wonderful and beautiful way to honor your ancestors and those that you're missing. And as you said, they have the altar too, which is called a friend.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Is it an affrenda?

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Afrienda, yes, a friend, yeah. In which they set up. And then I know marigolds are really, really important during this tradition because it is the flower of the dead and a way to help them find their way back to the living, like the smell and the color because it's so bright. And I love that they're honest, honoring their loved ones and celebrating that connection rather than like dwelling on the death part. They recognize the cycle of life. It's natural and they're recognizing that.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Yeah, it's it's a beautiful, it's a beautiful celebration because of the fact that they're not just sitting in loss and sadness and they're they're trying to like my understanding is they focus on, you know, the joys that occurred while the person was alive and you know their memories rather than just they're not here anymore. Um and it is such a beautiful thing, you know, to just be able to step into that thin veil and and feel it and really know that you are able to connect with the loved ones that are no longer here.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

Definitely. And I do it myself during this time of year with the veil being so thin. I really do try to step into having conversations with my loved ones. I mean, it's really something I should do every day, but uh right now it just I want to follow that tradition. I want to honor them and step into the possibility of.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

And and while, you know, talking about the different holidays that are celebrated, you know, we have Sal Wayne, Halloween, you know, Dia de los Muertos, all of these different celebrations actually center around being in such a thin veil. And it's so associated with that change in season going from summer into fall. And and, you know, here at least, you know, where I am, you're starting to wear, you know, the warmer clothes and kind of transition and kind of clothes for the winter, it all feels very different.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Right. And so ween, did I say that right? I think so, yeah. It's been a part of the Celtic history or history's not the right word, the Celtic tradition for many, many years. And you're exactly right. It's actually moving into, in their mind, the time of darkness. So you're going from feast to famine, from light to dark, and just recognizing then the cycles of life and the different ways that you can honor that and celebrate the dead or the living as you would have it. Yeah. Yeah, they find ways to protect themselves from like unwanted spirits, too. That's maybe where the tradition of the bonfires come in. I don't know that it was ritual ritualistic, but I don't want to say slaughtering livestock, but that's kind of what they did.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

That was part of it, getting ready for it's it's the time of year for it because you are stepping into non-traditional farming season. I mean, now today we have the ability to have in indoor farm, like indoor greenhouses and stuff like that, which is a beautiful thing. But there, I mean, a hundred plus years ago, you farmed during the summer, and that that was really you, you had what you had. So when you're stepping into the colder season, livestock and things like that, that that's all taken care of so that you can eat throughout the winter too.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Part of this tradition also, and I think this is something that we see in modern day Halloween, as people would often wear disguises or masks, trying to confuse wandering or unwanted spirits because the veil is thin. So there we have that connection again to the thinning of the veil. And recognizing that.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Yeah. So then you move into the Christian influence, and we're talking about All Saints and All Souls Day, where All Saints Day is November 1st, and that is a day in which you honor the saints, and then All Souls Day is a day in which you honor all souls, all all deceased, and that is the communion of how did they say communion of saints? That's it. Yeah. All has kind of come together in certain ways. There's lots of ways they're alike, and a lot of ways that the different traditions are different too.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Isn't it also known as Beggar's Day in some areas too, November 1?

SPEAKER_00 11:59

You know, that wouldn't surprise me, and instantly that one card in the tarot deck pops to my mind. I think it's the Four of Pentacles or no, the Five of Pentacles, in which you know which one I'm talking about? I think so.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

I'm also looking this up too. Yep. October 19th is Beggar's Day.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yeah. And if you were to look at all these different ways of honoring the dead or celebrating the living, do you bring those into your everyday spiritual practice? Do you see common threads in how you approach your spirituality in your life this time of year?

SPEAKER_01 12:44

I I think in some ways, yes. Halloween is is probably my favorite holiday. You know, also most people know it's it's my anniversary as well. Halloween to me, this time of year, with the the veil being as thin as it is, I don't think it increases my spirituality, but it brings more attention to it. Where, you know, during in the middle of summer, you know, mid-July, when it's 90 plus degrees out, you know, I'm not sitting by a bonfire. It's not getting dark super early. So I'm not really thinking in in the spiritual realm unless it's intentional. So I set the intention very differently depending on what season it is. Whereas this time of year, I feel like it's just it with the the veil being thin, it's just easy to step into. Does that answer your question? Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 13:34

It does make sense. And I'm just thinking of the changing of the seasons. I had this conversation with my son the other day. I shared the fact that September was always a wonderful month for me because school would start. And I'm not just saying as a parent, school starting, my gin room and my kids are going back to school. I more mean it's the start of a new routine. It's like clearing out the old and bringing in the new. So it really resonates with me when they're talking about that natural cycle of things in which all the different traditions seem to honor that.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

They honor the natural life cycle. It's interesting that that we're talking about this right now because what were we talking about before we even jumped into the podcast was I I am currently cleaning out my house and getting rid of a lot of things that are either no longer serving me, I don't need anymore. And that's kind of it's very much so a seasonal transition too, is, you know, I'm stepping into the cooler months here. So what clothes do I need that I perhaps am not like what what clothes do I need front and center versus what don't I need because it's not 90 degrees out anymore? And, you know, how do you transition in today's time and what does that look like? Because I feel like, particularly, you know, being in New Hampshire where where it does get really, really cold, it's almost like you start nesting in in this this time of year around the the thinner bale and all of that stuff. Does that does that make sense too?

SPEAKER_00 15:06

It does make sense. It it truly does. And that just moves me then into October. As you said, we're kind of hunkering down, getting ready for what's to come. And I can't lead this discussion without talking a little bit about how Hollywood has taken Halloween and brought in the creepiness or the spookiness of it. For me, a lot of times, or in the past, that's what Halloween or the month of October was. It was getting ready for this special night. But I totally didn't get the significance of Halloween, Day of the Dead, and all the different ways around the world that it was celebrated or recognized, because I was stuck in the Hollywood version of it. I was stuck in the scary movies and everything because Hollywood's.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

And with Hollywood's representation of that creepy factor or, you know, that fear factor in these movies that are created or productions that are made, it really changes how you view spirits and ghosts. It really turns them into this monster that that bumps in the night. Whereas realistically, when you're looking at Dia de los Muertos and Halloween and things like that, it's actually supposed to be a day of honoring. And, you know, not just, oh, I'm scared, but oh, look at who we've lost. Let's celebrate them one more time, you know?

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Exactly. Exactly. And I kind of like looking at it that way, like in a more mature way, in a more worldly experience way, just honoring those traditions and knowing where all this comes from, and that it all really goes back to celebrating the living and celebrating too the lessons that your loved ones have left you with and your ancestors too. They don't have to be gone from your life. You can welcome them in, you can open up those conversations. And I think in last week's episode, I did talk about during this time writing letters to loved ones, putting them on my nightstand so they can respond or they can hear them. And I don't know. It's just to me, such an amazing time of year to it. It can be about connection. And I've always said we need to do an episode on death. And I know that sounds so morbid because a lot of people, I I don't know, the death is the end of something. Here on earth, we're left mourning something. Here on earth, we're left without that aching spot.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

But at the end of the day, death is a part of life. And, you know, that's one of the reasons why that is my favorite tarot card is the death card. You know, I wear, I wear it around my neck because it's a reminder of rebirth and transition. It doesn't have to be focused around loss.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Yeah, and that's true. And that's something to remember. And it really can be a beautiful thing when you think of it moving forward. And again, it's such a harder taboo topic for that reason because people, you know, aren't always willing to hear that or see the beauty of it. Myself included, if it was my loved one, I'd be mourning and so sad. But I feel like I have more understanding of what happens next in my own mind, because I'm sure other people have ideas in their own mind. But I think it's wonderful that there is a day in which my loved ones, other than my birth date or death date, could celebrate me by bringing a place setting to the table, by going to visit my grave site, by putting marigolds out, or creating an altar, or all those different things that they can do.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Playing a song that reminds them of you, or, you know, just there are so many different ways too that that you can appreciate, acknowledge, and honor those that have been lost.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Right. So I think that's what we need to remember as the season is changing. It's all part of life's plan. It's a part of life's cycle, it's a part of nature's cycle, and to embrace it. And I mean, yeah, have your fun on Halloween, but recognize that it is something much deeper and very traditional, very steeped in tradition. And watch the movie Coco and look for the symbolism in there. Look for the sugar skulls, look for the lady in the red dress, look for the parades and the marigolds and altars and all of that, because it's such a beautiful celebration of life and what is to come. It really is. I don't know if we did a great job explaining all of those different things, but they do all have some points of connection, which has led us to traditional Halloween. And it's just important to recognize its roots. And I did take a moment, because we are changing the seasons out, to pull some tarot cards. And yeah, I'm kind of excited about it. So if people bear with me, I will go ahead and read. And I sent you the cards to Stacy. I had the ability to look at them and reflect on them before this, and now I'm just throwing you under the bus. So the the deck I used, if anyone has it, is the Lightseers tarot deck. So the first question that I asked had to do with connecting through the veil right now. And the card that I drew is the Knight of Wands. Now, I'll tell you in the imagery what came through first. It's a picture of a man standing in the front of the card. He's holding a torch, and behind him is a majestic lion. Now, the first thing I notice is the barrenness of the land. I notice a, I don't know, like a splash of energy going through, and also the shading, like the front of his body is going into a new season.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

So looking at that, that shadow that you were just referring to, when I look at it, it actually looks like the silhouette of another person, like the side angle view. So it's almost like carrying your past, or even again, talking about loved ones, carrying your your history with you in some capacity. And that's what I felt immediately. But that's that's the one I'm Observation that I really pulled from it.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

No, I mean, and that just jumps out first and foremost, as does his resilience and his strength and his willingness to adapt. So this is what I came up with for the card. As the season changes, the King of Wands is inviting you to step into motion. It's a force to be reckoned with. Looking at this card, the man in the foreground holds a torch of fire. And in his stance, you can feel the focus and his overall transformation. You feel that electric energy that is building behind you. It's a call for change. And looking at this card, it's a reminder that while life moves quickly, you have the fortitude to guide its direction. So don't resist the urge to shift. Instead, work with the flow and the momentum of this season. It's time to master the fire and avoid being consumed by it. Remember that the energy around you isn't really chaotic. It's purposeful and it carries an invite to step into purpose and to lean and move with confidence as you step into the darker or shaded part of the year. Do you have anything to add to that card?

SPEAKER_01 23:12

I think one of the biggest things that I see is this is this is another one of those beautiful cards of transformation, of growth, and forward movement. You know, a beautiful reminder that while you carry your past with you, you don't have to relive the same patterns over and over again that you have the fortitude to push through and move forward to.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Yes, I love that. And I think that's a beautiful addition. And I'm seeing those things also when I look at the card. Now, the second card I drew, the question had more about how then do I connect to this energy and to the veil being thin. And the card that I drew is Major Arcana. It is the lover's card. It sure is. It sure is, isn't it? It is a very, I don't know, the background has some swirling, it has some movement, it feels like a lot of noise. But the first thing I'm drawn to before I ask you what you're drawn to, and then jump into my reading of it, is just that mutual attraction to the universe. It really feels like if you want to connect, it is going to be all about intention. It's going to be about focusing, and it's going to be about drawing in what's most important to you. Now, those are my first initial impressions of that card.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

The first thing that I'm drawn to is there's a star in the middle of them, and it's right at the third eye, which I really picked up on that connection between the two people in the card. It almost looks like it's radiating through that connection to them. And it's it's this in invitation to me to have that mutual love. There's so much passion in this card. And I love that it's the lovers as we're stepping into the new season because like it just makes me want to actually snuggle down with my loved ones just a little bit more to spend more time with the people that I care for. It and it doesn't even have like it doesn't have to be in a sexual manner, but just that mutual connection that you make with others. This card immediately gives me this like, I want to give you a hug feel.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

I want to cultivate that relationship. I want to connect, and I'm gonna put into it as much as you're putting into it too. It feels very matched and it feels very equal. Um, so what I wrote about this card, uh, looking at this card, the lovers, it reminds us to move with intention and trust. It's one of alignment between heart, belief system, and vibration. So you need to focus your energy on what it is you truly believe and allow the universe to respond in kind. It's about the natural flow. Just like the first card was about the natural flow of things, this card is also about the natural flow of things. Trust the pool that you're feeling. It's magnetic and it draws you forward and allows you to connect those things that promote your greatest and highest good. And with the veil being thin, what is coming back at you will mirror your own frequency. So believe, believe, believe, and then feel. Trust what's coming through because you're co-creating the energy of the veil and it's reaching back out to meet you. So it feels like a very intense season of the veil being then.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Yeah, not just that, but that that cultivation of mutual love and respect with both you and yourself and you and the people that you cherish the most in your lives. I mean, I I love everything that you just kind of pointed out. And with the lovers card too being major arcana, this the this denounce like really, really, really like emphasis on that passion and that driven by love aspect and energy that that's so easy to tap into a little bit harder this time of year because of it's getting dark earlier. You know, we can, we can, we wanna go inward, we want to kind of cultivate that that self self-hermiting almost. But this this card is just a be you, be your energy, get out, love and and continue to cultivate the the passion that you have with what you're working on.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yes, and do it with intention, do it with focus. And I love that you talk so much about hermiting in because that's what we want to do. That's what we all want to do, but yet the world around us is gonna pull us back out because it's the holidays. Right. So yeah. Very interesting and very fascinating, but it's not about very encouraging. It's also very encouraging about where we are right now with everything.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Well, we have a few more minutes. I believe you had a a reader question or somebody somebody posted something asking a question, and I wanted to touch on that.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yes. Thank you for reminding me. So you put out video on Instagram in which you were talking about tarot, and we did get a listener question in which she asked, Do you use crystals to clear the energy from your cards? Now I spoke for me and gave her my answer, but the question was really directed at you. So what would you say, Stacy? Uh, no.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

How's that for just a very honest, honest, quick answer? My my longer answer is yes and no. So for the most part, no, I do not use crystals to clear my card. I shuffle, knock three times on the deck. So I hold my tarot cards in my left hand, shuffle once, knock three times to knock any energy that is no longer serving whatever reading I'm doing. And that is how I clear my cards. The long, the even longer answer is if I feel drawn to utilizing crystals, I will use them to clear. Now I haven't done it in a very, very, very long time. That's not to say I don't have crystals near. I have crystals in my room where all of my tarot cards are kept. I keep a very clear like energy in this room. So I don't have crystals here, like specifically too clear, because the cards are safe and cared for in the in in the space and energy. But yeah, my my my quick answer is no, no, I don't.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

No, and um the answer I gave, and I'm surprised that we're so similar, but not surprised at all. My cards involve knocking on them too, but it's as immediately when I take them out of the box, I knock and ask for anything, no longer serving anyone's good to be removed. And then I will physically like remove it, like I'm throwing it to the universe, and then I do a special type of shuffling and consider them clean. Do I bring in crystals every once in a while? Like if I get interrupted during a reading, I'll put a crystal on it to hold that specific energy. And sometimes I sage them.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yep. I I sometimes I sage them as well. So to kind of go off this question, when you utilize your cards and you're doing a reading for somebody else, if you if they are physically present with you, do you let them shuffle your cards? This is a big one. This is this is like a controversial question.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

And this is one that makes me a little uncomfortable. I've done it both ways. I really prefer nobody to touch my cards, but I do think it's important that they touch them in some way to infuse their energy. So what I will usually do is when I take my cards out of the box, I knock three times, I clear them, then I hand them to my sitter in which I ask them to touch each card, and then I will shuffle them and allow them to pick a card, not allow them. Like that sounds so mean, but no, and then I will invite them to pick their cards in. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 31:21

So it depends. Again, no clear answer here. Yes, I let people shuffle my cards, but also no, I don't. If I am sitting with somebody for a reading and they are across the table in front of me, I usually bring two or three decks with me that I'm drawn to before I go for whatever reading. And then I invite the person that I'm reading for to pick the deck that we use out of the ones that my guide has suggested. I will initially shuffle, clear out the energy, and oftentimes will actually hand the deck to the person that I'm reading for, depending on what we're reading about. If I need their energy in the deck, I'll let them shuffle until they they feel comfortable and then I'll read from there. If it's if it's something that's super specific that they like want to know, and I'm using a different deck, I will just shuffle myself and read for those answers. But I do have decks of mine that I do not allow other people to touch.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

And that is really something important to remember too. If you ever go into a reader's location or your best friend's a reader's or something, don't just walk up to their cards and pick them because it's not really appreciated. Like ask before you pick up a deck because some decks are kind of sacred, and it might be the deck I only work with when I'm reading myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

That's a really good point because the decks that I don't want people to touch, I only use for me. But the decks, other my other decks, like I I do prefer being asked, I don't want you just to walk up and start going through them because it you do add energy to them. So I I was doing a video last week. I don't know if if you had watched it, Michelle, but one thing that I learned when I was researching tarot is tarot cards can actually retain energy from every single reading that they've done. So if you allow everyone to have free access to your tarot cards, you're gonna have a whole heck of a lot of energy in them. And while that's not necessarily a bad thing, it can get very mucky.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Yeah. And I don't like the muck. And so very often after I finish a reading with a sitter, I will take those cards and go through that same routine of knocking, taking it out, shuffling before I put them back in the box. But I will say, and this is just a one-off, when I travel, I would say 90% of the times, if I have a box of tarot cards in my carry-on luggage, I'm gonna be pulled aside by TSA. And all I can think when they're in my bag, please don't touch my cards. So I really need to start traveling with some cards that I don't care if they get touched, but I like to have my cards with me, like my personal cards with me.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

So yeah, I actually don't think I've ever traveled outside of like locally with my cards. I think I when I when I have gone on vacations and stuff like that, I usually because I'm not doing spiritual things, I I set that aside and allow myself to just experience what I'm going to.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Yeah, and I'm going just to experience too. But you know, once in a while you pick up something and you're like, I need some more information. So they're just in case when I'm traveling. But still, I don't like people touching them.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

Yeah, don't don't touch. And and that's and that's very common. It's more common that tarot readers do not want individuals to touch their their tarot cards. I'm probably a little less common, but don't touch mine. Don't touch my person the cards that I use for myself at the same time. So it's yeah, not to be rude, it's just kind of an energy thing. So it's a hundred, that's that's it. It's a hundred percent an energy thing.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

We speak a lot of energy.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Great spot to wrap up. It is a great spot. So with that, Stacey. Stay classy, stay sassy, and I guess we'll say yours together. Stay a little better.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

We didn't do that very well. Nope, that's fine. Until next time, everybody. Bye. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality. If you like what you heard, please know that we have a full library of episodes now available on your favorite podcasting platform. You can listen to it now, or you can download it to listen to later. Also, if you'd like to give us a review, we'd appreciate it. We love connecting with listeners, and thank you in advance.