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Mediums Visit Zak Bagans' The Haunted Museum with Bonnie D'Angelo

Mediums Visit Zak Bagans' The Haunted Museum with Bonnie D'Angelo

Send us Fan Mail Hello everyone, & welcome to our podcast Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality! On this episode the trio welcomes their adventurous friend Bonnie D'Angelo for a firsthand account of a ghostly girls' trip to the infamous Zak Bagans' Haunted Museum in Las Vegas. From eerie encounters with spirit boxes and haunted dolls to a chilling experience in the room of a notorious serial killer, Bonnie and Michelle share everything, from initial skepticism to an overwhelming urge...

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Hello everyone, & welcome to our podcast Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality!

On this episode the trio welcomes their adventurous friend Bonnie D'Angelo for a firsthand account of a ghostly girls' trip to the infamous Zak Bagans' Haunted Museum in Las Vegas. From eerie encounters with spirit boxes and haunted dolls to a chilling experience in the room of a notorious serial killer, Bonnie and Michelle share everything, from initial skepticism to an overwhelming urge to flee. Along the way, they reflect on synchronicities, psychic readings, and the heavy physical toll of engaging with such intense paranormal energy. Whether you're a thrill-seeker or just ghost-curious, this episode delivers mystery, mischief, and more than a few goosebumps. It’s a haunted adventure you won’t want to miss!

Bonnie D'Angelo, is a talented psychic medium, a yoga guru, a reiki healer, and a crystal connoisseur. When she's not busy healing and enlightening, she's indulging in her passion for true crime and the spooky world of the paranormal. Catch her at spellboundmystics.com, where the magic never ends.

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SPEAKER_02

Hey guys, welcome to another podcast of Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality. And today we have a guest. It is a friend of ours, and Michelle and this friend Bonnie went and did something spooky, and they are here to tell us all about it. Hello, everybody. Hi, everyone. Hi there. So what's going on?

SPEAKER_00

I cannot wait to hear these stories. I've been waiting. Gosh. Oh my gosh. Bonnie and I had such an amazing adventure. And we were in Las Vegas. We didn't do anything that should stay in Vegas. Like we can share everything that we did here. And then we went up to Tonopah, Nevada. It's a little haunted, I would say almost ghost town, but it's still a thriving town. So not quite ghost yet.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I mean, but it was haunted. That's why you went.

SPEAKER_00

It is yes. There's a hotel there called the Mitzvah, and it is a haunted hotel. Yeah, I can't wait to talk about the little town because it's got a lot of history and quirks of its own. So maybe we should start from the beginning, which is Bonnie's arrival in Las Vegas. Yeah. Everything was on time. She gets there, her luggage arrives. Yeah, she had to be up at 6 a.m. Florida time. And our tour was not until 10 p.m. Vegas time. So this lady, I felt so bad for her. She was running on fumes. Fumes.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Like what time would that be? What time, what time would that be? Because I my brain doesn't function that way. Like to me, I'm I immediately go back like what three hours?

SPEAKER_03

It's a three-hour difference. Yes. So I when I got up at six o'clock my time, it would have been 3 a.m. Vegas. And I didn't get back to bed until 3 a.m. Vegas. So it was a 24-hour I mean I slept a couple, you know, minutes, but I was so amped up and so ready to get, you know, into things that I had a hard time having those naps. But yeah, I I was running on fumes. And my first lesson, and we always do these trips and we have lessons, right? My first lesson is when I'm going to Vegas, I'm going to allow for a full, you know, 24 hours to acclimate to the elevation. Because, you know, at Florida, elevation is like 10 and below sea level. Vegas is, I don't know what it was, 2000. And then Topino is like 6,000. So I was affected definitely by that first lesson. But it I couldn't wait. I couldn't get those naps in. So excited.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think I feel like because you're just after 30 years old, like at some point after 30, that whole sleep thing becomes so much more important that being awake for 24 hours is just, it hurts. It just hurts. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

It's painful. And especially again as you get older and you go to bed earlier, usually if you're living your regular day-to-day life. So we're stretching it at 10 o'clock, but that is the time they do the flashlight tour at the Zach Bagan's haunted museum. Now, do you guys watch ghost adventures at all?

SPEAKER_01

I've seen a few episodes. And I just also want to say, Bonnie, I'm not calling you old by any means. I've seen a few episodes. It's important to say because if you're calling her old, you're calling me old.

SPEAKER_03

They'll love you.

SPEAKER_00

So I I don't remember where I was at, but we were ghost adventures. Oh yeah. If you've seen Ghost Adventures, of course, the host is Zach Begins. I went to the Haunted Museum's website and I did a little bit of research and found out some interesting facts about Zach. One of them being that he has been interested in the paranormal and things that go bump in the night since he was like 10 years old. So much so that at that age he would go to garage sales and he would go to his mother's antique store and look for those items that spoke to him.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And then he had hiself into trouble with any of those items out of curiosity. I don't watch Ghost Adventures every week to know that he's gotten himself into trouble, but I do know in s several episodes that I've heard about, he's not feeling well. He gets grumpy or agitated. Bonnie would know because she is the one that watches Ghost Adventures most often.

SPEAKER_03

I do. I watch it a lot. I love the experiences that they share. I it is there's a lot of drama that he adds to it, but I believe he is definitely getting, you know, the evidence. But I've seen a couple episodes where they're in the haunted museum, and he it Zach does feel a lot of that clairsentience. He gets those emotions, those feelings, those things. So he's talked about a lot of his items in his museum that he has that he's already had effects from, and he has multiple stories about those and where they've come from. So they're it's really cool. And I wish that I would have done a little bit more research on the items in there because we were going in there at night, it was pitch black. I'd never been in there before. And that's another thing. I I we could have done like a day tour or something where we could get like maybe a little history on some of the things. So, but when we were walking in there, it was so overwhelming. There are so many items, very, very interesting items. And I love, you know, learning about all that. And I I wish I would have done a little bit more of that before going. But um, you live and you learn.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, that would have been definitely a good idea. The first lesson we learned because I had my private vehicle, the vehicle I own, the vehicle I park at my house in Vegas. And for me, I just didn't want to take it onto the property of a haunted museum. And so we took a taxi cab to this location because I didn't know where it was. I didn't know if it was safe. And I just have to share this story. It's a little bit of a one-off. We're in this taxi cab, this guy's driving us, and the tour gets over like at midnight. And so I'm like, how easy is it to get a taxi cab? Is this area safe? And he's like, well, it's relatively safe, but to get a taxi cab where you're going, I don't really know. But you can walk a mile and a half to the stratosphere and get a cab there because they always have cabs there. And I'm thinking, dude, we're two females. It's midnight. There is no chance in hell that after going through a haunted museum, stepping into a neighborhood, I don't know that we're going to walk that far.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00

So I was a little bit on edge about that. But I will say the Begins Museum, it has its security. It is well protected. And there are security guards there 24-7. As you're checking in, there's something there that gives you instructions on ordering an Uber, what address to give it to. So they have thought this out. And I will say thank you to them for that because I did feel safe and I did feel protected on the outside of that property.

SPEAKER_01

That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00

It is really cool. And as Bonnie said, flashlight tour, it's dark. We can't have our phones on because it might interfere with the equipment. And they loan us equipment. Like Bonnie had to give her ID so they would give us equipment to walk through the house with.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wow. Okay. So they are, they are very much so. Like this is how it is, and there are no exceptions.

SPEAKER_00

When we got there, they didn't tell us much about the exhibits in there. We should have done our homework, but they did give us a few rules. Most of them were like general knowledge, like don't sit on a chair that looks like it's gonna break, or don't go behind curtains because you could fall. The only exhibit that they gave us specific instructions about, and I think it's because someone asked, is Peggy the doll. And the instructions to go in to see Peggy the doll were don't look her in the eyes. And when you walk into the room, say hello, and when you leave, be sure to say goodbye. Those were the only instructions we got in this whole museum that's filled with everywhere you turn, clowns, dolls. I'm just trying to think. There was just everywhere you turn, there was something.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm not sure. I wouldn't have followed the rules if I was there.

SPEAKER_00

I know you wouldn't have.

SPEAKER_02

I'd be like, I'm not, it's a doll. I'm gonna look the doll in the eyes.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna be like, I I wouldn't have done. I was gonna follow the rules. And I think Bonnie did too, but it was very interesting. And Bonnie can elaborate on this. But Peggy, in the room she's in, she's in a box. There is a spirit box right there, and then below her are hundreds of dolls. And each of them looks so creepy.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, like I'm glad you're diving right into Peggy because I want to hear this entire experience.

SPEAKER_03

So we walk into the room and we're we're able to close the door behind us. So it's just us in the room and we're looking around. The spirit box is saying nothing. Like there it it's it's I was like, Do you feel anything? And I don't think you felt very much. And I I wasn't feeling anything either. And I was I wanted to look her in the eyes, but I then I got a little bit like maybe not today. Some but it was very even keel in there, which I was, what is going on? It's I want you know, I wanted to see what what kind of activity or what I might be feeling, but I didn't feel anything in that room. I did recently just watch an episode on Peggy the doll. And I wonder now, had I watched that before, knowing the story behind where she comes from, do you think that would have changed my experience? I wonder. Tell me about Peggy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Peggy is a very pretty doll. Like to look at her, and again, I didn't look her in the eyes, I just saw her shape. I've seen pictures of her on TV or the internet, wherever. Uh, she's a very pretty doll. She just looks so pure, she looks so innocent. The dolls below her were all kind of scary looking. There was a shrine to her in that room where people actually may ask a question.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Do you think it was by design that the other dolls were scary looking or not pretty like she was? Do you think that's intentional?

SPEAKER_02

I think that's a picture.

SPEAKER_00

It could be. But we went in there. Definitely darker. Yeah. There's a shrine where people leave things to Peggy in this room. There were playing cards, there were people's IDs, there were people's room keys. There was so much. Yep, that's her. But we're looking her in the eye right now. Yeah, but it's a picture. But that's part of the lore of Peggy. Like Peggy was gifted to a British psychic who worked with antique dolls. And the psychic started having experiences with her. So she wanted to kind of know what's going on with this Peggy doll. I want to kind of know before I put her picture out there. And the lure behind that is when she finally did post the picture, people who would see it on the internet just looking at it, were having reactions. Interesting. Yeah. To include, well, just real quick, to include like nosebleeds, nausea, migraine headaches, things like that.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's interesting. And I and I'm gonna share this kind of because it just clicked in in my mind. I actually had a dream about selling porcelain dolls the other day. Did you? Out of the blue. Like it was, I think not last night, but the night before, I dreamt of all of the porcelain dolls I've ever owned.

SPEAKER_00

I was hmm, maybe it was I was thinking maybe it would have been the night we were there, but anyhow. As Bonnie said, the room, not a lot of activity and activity in there. Interesting. What was that?

SPEAKER_02

I said, and don't you think that's interesting?

SPEAKER_00

I do. And I'll tell you a little bit because there was that spirit box there. And while it didn't talk to us, there were three words on the spirit box. And one of the spirit box words was Betty. And I will tell you that an hour before entering the museum, my husband and I grabbed dinner at the Side Betty Cafe. So it didn't appear when I was in the room. Kind of a coincidence. And then the next day when I was talking to Bonnie about it, we were in the town of BD, B-E-A-T-T-Y. So I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird, but interesting. Interesting. Do you want to say anything else about that room and your experience with Peggy?

SPEAKER_03

No, I think that was the that was pretty much, you know, the gist of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then when we left the room, because while we didn't have a guide to tell us where to go or what was going on, there was a guide available in case anyone started to feel sick. And we walked by and she's like, Do you get anything? We're like, nope. And she's like, that's the way Peggy's been lately. You're not gonna, I mean, she's not really talking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. If you hadn't followed the rules, she probably would have, but I I don't know if I would have pushed that button too hard.

SPEAKER_00

No, you know, I was just surprised. Like they had that whole shrine and people actually leaving their IDs and stuff. I didn't even want to pee there because I'm like, that's my DNA in that mix somewhere. So yeah, energy.

SPEAKER_01

Your energy. Your energy, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder why the IDs. I think that's that to me is the probably the one bizarre thing.

SPEAKER_04

That is their driver's license?

SPEAKER_00

Like their IDs, like school IDs. That is players' cards, bracelets. I mean, there was so much there.

SPEAKER_03

Talking about playing cards, while we in the got out of the cab and walking the grounds, I saw a playing card on the ground. And it had, it was, it was, I think it was hearts, but there was a heart that was blacked out, and then there were like scribbles on this card. I just felt called to pick it up. I'm like, I'll look at this later. I put it in my purse and I kept it for a little while.

SPEAKER_02

And did you what would it what did it say?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know what it said. Oh, you haven't looked at it? I looked at it, but it didn't say anything. It was just scribbles.

SPEAKER_00

That happened on Saturday. And on Monday, Bonnie found psychic to do a reading for us. And just before the psychic got there, she pulled out the card and put it on the table. Tell her what the lady said, Bonnie.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So Monday was my last night there, and we were like, what are we gonna do? I said, well, maybe there's a psychic we can bring in or go to. And um, she ended up coming back to the room, and I had my playing card on there on the table, and she's like, she's looking at it, and she's looking at it. And I said, Yeah, I kind of found that. And she's like, You gotta, I'm taking that with me. You can't keep that. That's voodoo, and that's there's some something dark attached to it. So I'm like, Oh, okay, yeah, you can have it. Take it.

SPEAKER_00

Was it a good reading? It was a wonderful reading. It was one of those readings that's just kind of telling you everything going on in your life. And I swear, if I didn't know differently, I would have said she was in the car with Bonnie and I when we drove back from Tonopah, like spot on. Everything we talked about.

SPEAKER_02

It was crazy. Anything like that stood out?

SPEAKER_00

Just the fact that it was like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, information.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, boom, boom, boom. It was the best way to explain that. If we jump back to the museum, though, because we're getting to something that happened there. The next room we stepped into was the how do you say it? The dibuck du debuck debuck box, which is supposed to be the most haunted item in the museum. And there was nothing. We didn't feel anything, we didn't react to anything.

SPEAKER_03

It was just box didn't talk, no activity on the EMFs. Yeah. But it was interesting. I w I watched that episode today too, and the history behind this box is horrifying. When we left, I said, I'm not, I don't feel like I need to go back. Now I feel like I need to go back.

SPEAKER_00

I'm feeling that way too. And I had said the same thing as you. Can you share a little bit about the of that history about this box? The darkness, however you say it. The thing, because I started to watch that episode, which is the Haunted Museum by Zach Begins. It's on Discovery Plus. You can find it there. And it says that dark spirits attach to the living for incomplete business.

SPEAKER_03

So it's held with spirits.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, dark spirits in it, or there it's holding it. But again, we we got nothing there on that floor. Now, the way the tour was designed, there were 20 of us there. The house is broken up into two sections, the back of it, the front of it, and we started in the front of it. And the idea is we have time with each of these exhibits as we want. When we walk in there, we close the door behind us, nobody will bug us. So we're on this floor, and we decide then to go down a level. And that level was off the hooks, stuff going on. And the first thing we heard, because we were upstairs, we kept hearing this like click clicking, not a bell, but it was a bell. And it was a spiritual bell, and it was in front of a picture of a man, and I don't know what else was there. But Bonnie started talking to it and tell him what happened, Bonnie.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, you're gonna have to. But I know I was asking questions, and I was asking, yes, ring yes, uh once for yes, twice for no, and every question that I was asking it was like responding intelligently.

SPEAKER_00

Like the results were just like and she finally said to it, can you give me a no? Because everything was yes, and it did. It went dun dun like two. That was pretty cool. Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

And then near that ex go ahead. Did that make you pause for a moment and just go that that just happened? Like that oh yeah. Because I think me, I I would have been like, I'm I'm having this intelligent conversation with something that's not actually physically present, and I don't know what to do with that at the same time, even though we all have experience with with spirits, right? But I think having that opportunity would still give me pause. It did.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it was one of those things where we looked at each other and then you got the full body or the head confirmations that something was going on here. So from there, this floor had a lot going on. To the right, I think it was, let me check my notes because I tried to write it all down so I didn't forget anything. I think to the right was the original staircase from the demon house. And they had like a fake demon. And every time this kid, and this kid was an enthusiast, like he follows Zach, and he had been there several times before. Every time he walked in the room, this would just go off. And there was another room with like the devil's chair or something like that. I believe that's what the exhibit was. I couldn't take notes there, and it was going off in there too. So all this dinging ringing going on on this floor. And the next part, there's a hallway there, and we enter it, and it is the display of the killing room of the Kansas City butcher, Robert Berdella. And when I walked into that room, I got the most sickening smell of like very sweet popcorn mixed with I don't know what. And I started to feel sick. I'm kind of like, ah, take this smell. I don't, I can't even explain it. It was so sickening sweet, but it's Bonnie, do you have like a better description?

SPEAKER_03

It it definitely is a sweet, toxic smell. It was it was weird.

SPEAKER_00

This butcher, he was known to drug his victims and do things like that. So I don't know, maybe chloroform or something. I don't know if that was ever used, but I've never smelled chloroform, but it is said to be sweet. I would really hope you've never smelt chloroform. That would be a problem. I never have. That's why you're worried out there that I've chloroformed somebody or myself. I haven't.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's hilarious. So that was a disturbing room.

SPEAKER_00

It was very uncomfortable because they had like actual his actual logs of how he tortured and brutalized these people. And he had drawings and they had sheets that had actual body fluids on it. Yeah. From it was just very, very dark. And it was very hard to be in that room. And I will say, not while I was there, and you'll find out in a minute why, but that museum holds a lot of serial killer memorabilia. It holds things from John Wayne Gacy to include a self portrait, sunglasses from Ted Bundy, something from Charles Manson, Samuel Little. I'm probably forgetting a few, but Zach has done his job. He has gone and he's collected things and created this museum. So there's all that going on. And Bonnie, she kept looking at me. She's like, Are you okay? Are you okay? I'm like, I just have to get out of the space. And then what happened, Bonnie?

SPEAKER_03

And then we went into another exhibit. And I instantly felt dizzy. I I got the spins and then I started feeling icky and gross. And I thought I was gonna throw up or come out the other way. I'm like, are you feeling okay? Like I'm just starting to feel really, really gross right now. And she's like, I'm okay. I said, okay, but I think I have to go.

SPEAKER_00

And then I was so happy she was saying we had to go because I was just putting on a brave face at that point.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, I I have to go right now. So we found the security person and she took us out right away and sat down and like I need water right now. It it it it came over me really like instantly. Now, mind you, I am I'm running on fumes and like I don't know if that had anything to do with it or if this room just really kind of pushed it to the max where I'm like, okay, I'm done now.

SPEAKER_01

Did anything happen in the room? Or was it just walking in and feeling the energy? And you were like just yeah, just walking in.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't know, I don't even know what room it was. Like I I like until we got out of there, or I think we're back at the hotel or somewhere where you you found out what room it was. I'm like, I don't even know how that is. But I instantly felt dizzy and it was like the spins which made that feeling of nausea really kind of like worsen.

SPEAKER_00

And if any of you want to go find the story of that room because it is all her equipment that they brought and replicated her living room, it's in episode two of season one in the haunted museum. And the individual's name is Esther Levin, and she was kind of considered to be very eccentric, she was very smart. I think she's a little estranged from her family or she didn't interact a lot with other people. And this happened back in 2002, I believe. But she used all this equipment to make contact with entities from another realm. And like she would write down notes, put it in one thing, write down notes, put it in the other, and try to connect. And for her, she thought she was connecting with a guardian angel, but what came out was a demon, which ended up killing her. So that's kind of her story.

SPEAKER_03

It was a killer. Just see from what I watched, it was just like the pressure and and just the uh presence, like strangulation. She's like it was just like took her energy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And they they found her, and then he so he brought everything back into the room. And again, it's creepy. You're walking into this living room. The TV, I believe, is there and it's static y, like it was when they found her. And I will say the haunted museums is not like other ghost adventures. He is taking items from his museum and doing reenactments of what probably happened, what his vision is or what their vision is could have been the case. The one they did on Peggy the Doll, they did not use the real Peggy in the episode because they didn't want anyone to get sick, but they did show her at the end. They warned people, like, we're gonna show you now at the end.

SPEAKER_01

I I just had to look up the name that you just just supplied. And the first thing that popped up is like 44 murders connected with a woman like crazy.

SPEAKER_03

So I So I I will tell you, when I watched that episode of Esther with her her machines, I okay, I'm I love horror thriller movies. Like I I don't get scared easily. I was scared watching the episode. Like I felt the fear in her. So I don't know if if there was a connection that that would have been there for me as I walked into that room, but I legit was terrified watching that episode. And I'm I I'm I watch these shows all the time. Like, why am I terrified? And I'm very sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I did find, coincidence or not, that before I went into the museum, I tapped in and I came up with like really like glitchy energy in the house. I saw these snakes and I saw this upside-down spider or something. And when I was watching the show, which again, all reenactment, they were all in that episode, along with, and we'll talk about it in a future episode because we go to mitzvah or Tonopah. We go to Tonopah, and while we're there, we had an experience with an alarm. And in this episode, there is this alarm that just keeps going off. So for me, it kind of felt like validation that what happened to Bonnie there was what we thought it was.

SPEAKER_01

I absolutely believe it's what you thought it was. Like, there is no, like, in just a quick Google search. I mean, the information that's popping up for me, I'm kind of like, like, ooh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so we made it through the front half of the house. We did not make it through the second half of the house because we got an Uber and we left. I will say, my initial thought, I immediately stepped into, I did not enjoy that experience because I'm not a person, I don't like antiques. You'll never see me in an antique shop. But here he's brought all these things from different places, put them in one house, and it was too much. For Zach Begins, for the Ghost Adventures people, he did perfectly. He did exactly what he wanted to do. It's perfect. But for me, I would rather go to a haunted location that's the way it kind of was, hear the history of it and have the experiences there, which it's not so cluttered and overwhelming.

SPEAKER_01

That this the I actually have a question about this location. Do they let people stay the night? No. Both of both I you can't see them, but both of them are shaking their heads adamantly.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah. We did find it interesting upon leaving because I said, you know, earlier I didn't want to park my car on property, but I did ask the guards, like the houses around here, do they have experiences? Because there's a really nice house right next to the museum. And we did find out that that house is owned by Zach Begins, and that is the Ghost Adventures corporate office or whatever, right there.

SPEAKER_03

So they do all their editing in that building in the yeah, right next door.

SPEAKER_01

Do they have activity? Did he say, did he answer the question? Or did he say it's a business? So they they wouldn't know. He didn't answer the question.

SPEAKER_03

Interesting. We did ask uh one of the girls sitting outside of a room if she ever has had any experiences. And she's like, nah, sometimes I hear some footsteps. Well, that's something pretty nonchalant, but that's something.

SPEAKER_01

I guess if you're stepping into a role where you are working at a place like that, yeah, you have to expect something. And to me, footsteps would not be as daunting as walking by and having somebody like call my name, for example. Or, you know. That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but a week removed, would I go back? Yeah. I write you. Probably during the day with a guide so I could understand what I'm seeing. Because I'm sure I missed a lot. I'm sure just like being overwhelmed having a flashlight to read everything, I'm sure I missed a lot, but I would go back.

SPEAKER_01

See, I feel like I would do, I would want to do both. I'd want to do the day and then go into the night. And like when I was able to go at night, you know, be familiar with what you're looking at too. But I also feel like I'd be setting myself up for expectations too of what I anticipate seeing.

SPEAKER_00

And Bonnie made a good point before we even went in that she didn't feel like we needed to protect ourselves, like we've had to protect ourselves in other areas. We, of course, called in our guides. We did our traditional tarot card. You know, we drew two cards each before we went in, looked at them, and then two cards after. And for me, my two cards going in is like it's on path, stay within your boundaries, do what you're comfortable with, but you're protected. And the cards about how I felt about it after it's a five five of pentacles, but my card has a person like sitting. What is that position where you're holding your knees on the floor and everything around her is so big and just going inwards. So that was my and that's exactly how I felt.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. It was it was a good experience. I would do it a little different next time. But that's okay.

SPEAKER_01

But I I feel like that's the whole point of having the experience is is going in and and experiencing it firsthand without any expectations, and then going, yeah, I would do it differently, maybe. Totally.

SPEAKER_00

How cool. It was really an adventure. It was a ghost adventure.

SPEAKER_03

It was. So our Uber driver back told us, absolutely not. I would not recommend you guys walking around in this neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, just on the side note, the Uber driver was like, What was that taxi driver thinking? What like I would not have ever said said that or suggested it.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I mean I knew that without you even saying that. Like, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, do you guys have any questions about this? Because I think we've talked about this part of our trip so much that maybe we have an episode two about the other part.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. I think that this is a great place to put pause. And if something comes to me and record the next episode, I'll go back and revisit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sounds good.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, well, Stacy, take it away.

SPEAKER_01

Stay classy.

SPEAKER_00

Stay sassy. Stay badassy. And what do you want to add, Bonnie? Stay smoothie. Until next time, everyone. Bye. Bye. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Three Cups in a Dash of Spirituality. If you like what you heard, please know that we have a full library of episodes now available on your favorite podcasting platform. You can listen to it now, or you can download it to listen to later. Also, if you'd like to give us a review, we'd appreciate it. We love connected with listeners and thank you in advance.