Asking Intuitive Q&A: Signs From the Universe, Crossing Over and Ouija Boards

SPEAKER_00 0:00

On this week's episode of Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality, we are going to be answering some listener questions, talking about Ouija boards and crossing spirits over. Do the music. Let's get this episode started. Hello, hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of Three Cups and a Dash of Spirituality. I am here with Stacy and Krissa. How are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Oh, hello, I'm great.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

I have kind of a funny story to share today. It's a case of thinking I had manifested really well, only to find out like I manifested, I guess, for everybody in the world because it happened to them if they had an Apple phone. But I've been getting a lot of messages lately about journaling and the importance of getting back into a routine and stepping into those things that make me feel connected. And I go to bed one night, I wake up the next night, and I notice I have a journaling app now on my Apple phone. And I'm like, how did that get on my Apple phone? I must have manifested it. And I'm really like thinking, did everybody get it? Like, how would that be possible? Well, turns out everybody did get that in the most recent upgrade to the iOS system. But here I thought, oh, it's a spiritual something, but it really wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

And you have to turn the location thing off a bit or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Yes. And that's the only reason I knew everyone got it because I saw several things about turning the location off. And I'm like, well, I didn't really think it was spiritual, but you know, I was very surprised when it showed up on my phone when it's been such a big theme in my life lately.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

It could be both. Psychically, you picked it up, and there's a part of you like, hello, we've told we're trying to tell you journal, journal, journal. Listen to those signs, Michelle. We're gonna dump it in. That's a big ass sign.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

It is. Well, you know, I do have another listener question if you would like to answer. Let's dive in. Okay, well, here it is. On the podcast, you've talked about signs from the universe. What is an interesting way that the universe speaks to you?

SPEAKER_01 2:14

I got one.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Go for it, Krisa.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

So I remember because I wanted to be a therapist when I was younger, that turned and then I didn't, and then I went back. Anyway, ADHD. ADHD. Anyway, so that therapist, she had said this was a long time ago, it was in 18, 19. And she's like, you know, every time I see a yellow butterfly, I know everything's gonna be okay. And ever since then, that's popped up. And coincidentally, or coincidence, as Stacy likes to say, there was one yesterday. Something had happened yesterday, and then there it was, one lone little yellow butterfly. And it was like, and I got to settle in. And it was, it was like the universe or spirit guides or God or whatever, who whatever you want us to call it, said everything's gonna be okay. And the nervous system just settles a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Oh, I love that. What a wonderful experience and a wonderful dictionary item for you because you know what it means. You don't have to overthink it or dissect it, it just is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

How about you, Stacy?

SPEAKER_02 3:23

So I was kind of chewing on what Carissa was saying and then thinking about my own experiences. I think for me, the universe tends to give me a lot of repeating numbers whenever I need to just know that I'm on path. You know, I don't I don't put a lot of stock into the meaning behind the angel numbers or anything like that. Like occasionally, if I'm seeing the same exact number on repeat, I will look it up. But what I find in a pretty significant message for me is when I step into doubt or fear or worry, that is typically when I see the repeating numbers the most. Fours tend to be the most popular, the most like automatic, like dive in, like I'm seeing you, I hear you kind of feel. But it's it's just for me. And and again, I don't look up the meaning behind it because I just the angel numbers have never really whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

They're doing something specifically for you.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Yeah, they don't they've and and the the meaning behind the angel numbers has never really been succinct in in my spiritual life. So for me, it's just that you got this, it's okay. Like it's you're on path, everything's going to work out. And it it just kind of helps me go, okay, okay. What about you, Michelle?

SPEAKER_00 4:39

One of the ways the universe speaks to me that feels really unique is through audio things, podcasts, background noise, television shows. I will be sitting down and I I have to have background noise when I'm working. And I will be literally writing out a word, and they will be saying the same word in that same moment. And that happens all the time. And it's not like everyday words. It's not like, I don't know, give me an everyday word, champagne. It's not like I'm writing champagne and I'm hearing champagne. The other day it was the word imperial. Like how weird. I'm writing imperial and literally it's on my background noise. So that's one way that I find that the universe speaks to me. And again, it's just nudges forward that I'm on the right track. It's just confirmation to keep going.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

I appreciate and value that when you were searching for a word, alcohol is the first thing that came to mind.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

I was just she was like, you know, an everyday word.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yeah, why wouldn't it be? I love that you brought that to the awareness of everybody out there listening to us too. A hundred percent. Like I was gonna miss that opportunity. I no, I love getting signs that way. And it really has been one of the ways that I've been able to also connect into my purpose. And one of the ways that it'll tune me in is I will be hearing something and I will make that mental note that it's important that I need to hold on to this, and something within the next, I don't know, 24 hours will confirm it. We've all gone through that um evaluation process. So we're we're returned, we're all good.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

I don't want to ever come in to a path of a serial killer, but I've actually had to help cross one over. And I remember Stacy had said, I I can be, I like to be mean to them sometimes. And I had to like mess with him in order to trick him to get him to cross over. Do you like how my brain works? Do you like how my brain works?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

You know, it's interesting because Carissa, you just said something, and I know you guys are laughing at me because I do I make people angry when I cross them over sometimes. And it's not that I'm mean, it's that I am sometimes so blunt that it startles them and they start to get angry, but it shifts them just enough. Because, like the majority of the time that I do a lot of crossing over work, like it's in passing. So I'm not like sitting in a space creating this beautiful like doorway that I'm just like, here, please follow the rose petals. Usually I'm in the middle of doing something, like working out or like hiking, or like my focus is elsewhere, and then you know, I'll have a spirit come in that needs help crossing over, and they're trying to distract me. And I am majorly ADHD, so it's really easy to distract me. Number one, number two, if I'm really focused on what I'm doing, if you and you're distracting me, you're just gonna piss me off. So I will occasionally be like, that's enough. Yeah, and then the spirit kind of like it it startles them because a lot of them are so stuck that they're just repeating the same thing. Unconscious, yeah, and and so I'll just be like, that's enough. And you can like it almost energetically feels like they're taking a step back, like what? Like, oh, she sees me and knows me, and yeah, yeah, and it's just like like that, gone because they're not stuck in that whatever they're repeating to me anymore, they're more pissed off, yeah, or taken aback by your abruptness.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

I mean, they're sitting there and they're so in their own fear, their own anger, their own low vibrational energy that they're not stopping to let the light in. And so when you get their attention, yeah, it's like okay, now I can refocus. Now I can uh see what they're talking about, I can hear them, they can see me. And just by that, they shift immediately.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

And one time I was staying in Portland, Oregon, and this she was a stuck spirit. She was taunting me in the middle of the night, and I finally just got up and I said, That's enough. And I slammed the door. And then the next day I had a regular psychic I was talking to, then, and she goes, Her name is this. You need to just well, she's like, Okay, you crossed her. I was like, uh, uh, this is a long time ago. I was freaking out. I was like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. She goes, Well, this is her name, just say her name out loud. I'm just gonna like she will leave you alone. She did because they think you don't see them, and it's like that awareness piece is what Stacy was talking about.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Well, and and I think that you're you're kind of hinting at the the secret to crossing people over is when you do experience a spirit coming through, they're so stuck on one thing, they're so stuck on that that topic or the reason that they're here. The goal is just to transition them out of that thought, and then typically it's just like that crossed, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Yeah, and when yeah, and when people say you can't do this or you shouldn't do that, always question them because there you never everything's different, everybody has different experiences. I had I don't know if he was a serial killer, the one I crossed, but he was gross, like something he was just dirty, gross, something about him was just really icky icky, you know. He had not done good stuff in this life, and in order to get him to cross, I had to taunt him to like, yeah, you can't do that, you can't go through there, you know. And and so when if someone says you're not supposed to taunt the dead, that don't listen to them because you never know what's gonna come up. Well, I'm not saying going around and pick, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Yeah, I mean when when you say that, I I think just a little clarity comes in is you're not taunting them to get them on camera and and be unethical. You're taunting you, you're you're doing what's taken to cross them over.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Correct. And you feel that vibrational difference too, because I know when we went into the Sally house, you immediately stepped into not really taunting, but like throwing out this, like you think this, but because you knew you had to, you knew you had to get that attention and work on that level rather than come in, you know, and be all like, Yeah, I want to hear it. Like, let's just chat. You knew you needed to do something to get the attention in order to change the energy, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:55

You gotta walk in with a little big C O C K is what I felt like with that guy, which I didn't know at the time, but then I knew it when he came up because he came up and he's like, Oh, we're the same. Because I come in with a big C O C K attitude.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

I don't know why you're not just saying cock, because you're just you're spelling it out, and and we've talked about pain and sex and all of these wrong.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

You're welcome, listeners who doesn't like who don't like cussing. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

I have a shirt that I wear regularly that says I swear a lot.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Well, they say people who swear are more intelligent. Well, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

I think it's false in my case.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

Don't shut up. This PhD candidate.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Well, Carissa, there was a an experience that you you called me about when you were crossing a guy over, and you were being so sweet to this guy. You call me and you say, Stacy, I'm putting down candy for him to follow to the door, and he is just not going for it. And I said, Well, then put down apples. And so you were like, Seriously, you think that's gonna work? And I was like, Yeah, I do. And then you called me back like 10 minutes later and goes, he was so mad. I was like, but he transitioned.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Then you were like, Yeah, he didn't want to go because he liked the candy. I was like, I was laying it out to the door, you know, laying just like slowly in his candy, yeah, and me being the asshole. I'm like, Gary, the freaking candy, give him give him something healthy, and it it really shook him out. Yeah, it's like made him wake up a little and look around.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

So you can cross people over getting angry with them or getting more forceful with them. How else can you cross people over?

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Ask your guides, that's what I learned. Where I was trying to do it all on my own, and it was like, oh duh, ask, ask your guides, and then y'all work together. And you know, another thing I learned is you need to be more afraid than humans than stuck spirits, and that was really helpful because I used to hide under the covers all the time.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

Well, and and I'll throw out there because I I think one of the things that happens is we step into fear because it's supposed to be like we think it's gonna be this really scary experience when we have a spirit coming through that's stuck. You know, we talk about lower vibrations and all of that stuff, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're harmful or they're bad. You know, sometimes it can it can work out that, you know, I'll look up and I'll sense this worry, this significant worry. And I will say something like, Hey, you know, they're gonna be okay. And if you cross, you'll see that. And just offering that opportunity of glancing in allows them to kind of release and cross. It's just shifting them from whatever they're focused on into anything else, anything else.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Yeah, so if you're religious, pray. You have one in there, don't be afraid, pray and ask for the assistance to help this stuck soul cross over. Ask your guides. You don't need to see anything sometimes, you don't need to feel anything. Well, you may feel that it's they're gone, but you don't need anything all special and fireworks going off.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

And Stacy, I love that you were pulled to share that because when we talk of a lower vibrational energy, people might in their human mind go directly to fear or worry about that, but it really that's not what we're talking about. Lower, just that anxiety, that not wanting to lead this life. I mean, it could be so many things. It could be your house was up for sale. Well, did the buyer go through so your family has the money? Like it, I mean, it's just everyday things they're worrying about that you just have to stop that thought pattern to get their attention to say it's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Yeah. And it, I mean, that that to me, like whenever you have these these spirits that are stuck in in that lower vibration of worry, for example, or concern, there's so much love there. You know, I did cross over a woman that was worried about her husband, you know, being okay. Is he gonna be okay without me? Is he going to survive? Is it going to be okay? And it's such a deep, profound sense of love that comes with that, that, you know, having that opportunity to shift them out of that worry or that concern for the people that they're leaving behind is really, it's it's really powerful. And, you know, that I think those kind of crossing over that kind of crossing over work is when I really realize that it's not as scary as people think. Yeah, they're there. I think we we tend to lean into the stories that are fear, fear-based or fearful, but we we don't put a lot of emphasis on the ones that are just you know beautiful or or simple or you know, kind.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Image that came up for me is poltergeist wearing the ghost polder all the way up the wall and on the ceiling. Guys, that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

No, that's Hollywood.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

That's Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah, and the thing that came to my mind when you were sharing what you just shared, Stacey, is I had a loved one who recently passed, and you know, I've been on my journey, understanding crossing over, and I couldn't be with her, but I could meditate in, and I felt like I really had a conversation with her. And in that conversation I shared, you know, when you pass, go to the light. Because once you're there, you're gonna have all the answers. You're not gonna have that worry. So please go, and I guarantee you, you'll have the answers, and we've got everybody here on Earth's back. Like we will look after them, we will be there, we will show up. But this is what you need to do for yourself. And I was so thankful in that moment to have that knowledge and that experience because of my own crossing overs that I've done, talking to an amazing team of other women and men who do crossing over work. And it really is, it really is beautiful. And it really is you get there, you go through the process, and then you have access to it all.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

You know how it all works out. You just you just sparked something that I that I feel drawn to share. And that was a beautiful conversation that I was having with somebody recently because she lost her her grandmother, and then her daughter was there, and her daughter now sees grandma everywhere, and we'll we'll bring attention to it, and it actually has been like this beautiful source of comfort. Grandma is crossed over, so grandma's here more as a guide. But one of the things that came up in the conversation is, you know, she said, you know, what happens when people are alone when they pass? And I'm like, You're never alone. I said you're never alone. Because even if you are physically by yourself in a house, a home, an apartment building, whatever, your guides and sometimes other living souls will be with you, just not physically. And it brings, you know, a memory back of someone that I was that I knew in life that that passed very suddenly. And I'll never forget because I went to bed very early that night because I out of the blue had a really upset stomach, and my it was just I was really not feeling well. And I was so asleep that I that I think, you know, I know we've talked about in a previous episode. I don't think I was actually in my body. I think I was with this person because after I woke up, actually my husband woke me up because my family was trying to reach me, but they couldn't. My my phone was going off and and I was so asleep that I didn't hear it. And so I I do firmly believe that I was present for my family member as they crossed.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Yeah, and that reminds me of when my maternal grandmother passed away too. Uh we knew the time was getting close. And I remember laying in bed that morning and just thinking, somebody be there to meet her, please, someone be there because she was divorced from my grandpa. And I'm like, she just needs to know it's okay. And I literally felt someone like squeeze my leg in reassurance. And then I got the call that she had passed. So I really felt like that was like my other grandparents or my grandpa, her ex-husband saying, We're there. Like she's not going into it without loved ones. And I really do believe like when that time gets close, your space does, especially if you have time to prep in hospice, your your space does fill with loved ones, with God energy, with you know, angel energy that they're there to help guide you home.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

And you're giving me like full-on body chills because that's absolutely you are never alone and never alone. No, and even like you know, it's in just to kind of bring a little creepy into this, you're never alone, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

Except in the bathroom and during intimate moments. That's what I like to think.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Chris's face is glorious. Well, and and that's and that's also, you know, stepping back into it, you know, you have spirits that are coming and going, spirit guides, you know, the people or this, the the things that I'm talking about when I say you're never alone are not bad. It's not a bad thing. But that's also where, you know, making sure you've got your protections comes into play too. You know, I the only things that are allowed in my bedroom are for my greatest and highest good, period.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yeah. And it's nice to know you're being watched over. It's nice to know you have a whole team looking after you and they're only going to intervene if you ask for their help. If not, they're gonna keep their distance. That's what they've agreed to do. And unless you need their help, they're just in case.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Yeah, actually, you that's a really good point because if you want like archangel energy, if you want act, like you have access to archangel energy all of the time. You but if you don't say anything, they will absolutely not help at all. They'll stand and watch, they'll watch you suffer. But then, you know, once you ask, they're there. But my guide definitely intervenes and is a pain in my ass.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

So they'll keep you on track for your greatest and highest good.

unknown 21:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

If you're not listening to your intuition, they're gonna throw pebbles and then they're gonna throw big life changes at you. So I was once, um, my husband and I had gone jet skiing and he went to get the car because it would have taken an act of God for me to back that trailer down to retrieve the jet skis. But while we were out there, the weather had changed and it was horrible. It was so windy. And so when I'm down there trying to hold those jet skis, I'm standing in between them and they are smashing me. They're coming at me with such force that I looked up and I said, Archangels, I need your help right now. And then it's almost like they just kind of kept out a little bit. It was the weirdest and coolest thing, and I was so un eternally grateful. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

I love it. Amazing when when you do ask for their help because it changes things automatically. Yeah, quickly.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Yeah, it sure does. Do you have anything else you want to share about crossing people over, Carissa? Techniques, advice, experiences,

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I do not do it every day. I have my boundaries. I am open to doing it when I'm in my meditation. And sometimes that doesn't work and they're around and I have time, I'll do it. I would just want the listeners to realize that it's really not this big, long, drawn out or ordeal. And you don't have to have some gift. You just can set a prayer or an attention and to help them. Don't be afraid. Like, don't be afraid and hide under covers like I used to. Say a prayer. Say an intention. Wish this, wish them well, and and and tell them that you're holding space with your spirit guides or God helping them cross. I wish someone would have told me that.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

And I just thought of another thing. We're all called to work with different populations. You think that's part of the experience when you come down here? Like Stacy's gonna get the people who need to be put in their place or quieted down, the ones that are a little bit angry, Chris. So you might get older people who want candy. I might get like children or younger people who are looking for like that motherly figure. Do you understand what I'm asking?

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Yeah, I've like our I've had a mix. I used to when I first started, I was like, oh yeah, this is, but now it's just for me. I have a mix.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

It's not whoever comes in.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

There may be a little bit higher percentage on some, but it's a mix.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

So for for the most part, I do think that you know, there is a specific, like you, I think you are you draw in what is drawn to you. So energetically, I think that there are certain things that are more likely to come through because they're drawn to your energy. With that, I think too that they're gonna go to the closest person. If they're if if you're if you're a light in the darkness, they're just gonna go to you. So I think the answer that I would say is yes, but. She has her limitations, you know, set. My I I feel like my house is just a a circular a door that's you know, people are coming in and crossing over all the time. But it doesn't bother me because they're only in certain areas of my home. But if they come to me and I can't, or I'm not in a space, or I can't hold that energy, they'll go to the next person. If you can't do the work, they'll go to the next person, you know. And and I'll have like I'll have clients that come to me and say, Stacey, I had somebody come over and I just couldn't do it. I couldn't cross them over. Did you cross them over? Did they come to you because I sent them to you? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, I I there's so much movement that's coming through my house that it's entirely possible that they came to me and I just don't know it because I just great point.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

So next time, if I'm not in the mood, I'll just say go to Michelle's house, go to Stacey's.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Yeah, I works. I I have I have my revolving door of of energy that's happening here. I I can feel them coming through like cons like constantly, but I don't really yeah, interact as much as I think people assume that we need to.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

So, what do you think it looks like? You know, we have that light around us. What do you think it looks like to them? Have you ever stopped to really think about it? Because I haven't until this moment when you said that a few seconds ago, actually.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

A lighthouse.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

I so lighthouse is the first thing that comes to mind, but I also think of like a beacon that's just like shooting into the air almost like a bat signal. Yeah, not not necessarily a bat signal, just a beacon, like you know, safe safe space, safe space kind of message feel.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

I like that. Well, anything else you want to share about crossing people over, Stacy? Because I do have a few more things once we move past this topic. It's not scary. You don't need to be afraid.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

You really don't, and that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Yeah, I think we all have to really double down on that message that it's nothing to be fearful for. The universe will never send you more than you can handle. Your guides know what you're ready for. And again, if you don't feel ready for it in that moment, if you're not equipped to deal with it, just say not a good time. And you're not dooming them to walk this earth for the rest of life. They will move on to the next person. So just be open to it, the possibility of it. There we go. Okay, well, I'll move this on because in our social media, I just want to share this here because I wasn't able to give a very good answer to the person who asked. Hopefully they're listening. In our social media, I did an intuitive exercise in which I was working with the different spirit animals. And on this particular day, it was the elephant. And she so kindly wrote in the comments, like, oh, I missed it. I thought it was a penguin, which I'm like, oh, what she doesn't know about that is, you know, they both are related to family, which is super cool. But I did that card reading or I pulled that card, I recorded the exercise, and the very next spirit energy that I stepped into was that of a penguin. I didn't record one, I was doing a reading, and that was the next animal energy that came through in the same space. So tell her, you know, she was probably picking up on that too. I I didn't, I mean, that was a lot to type out, like on just I I did tell her the connection with the fan. I'm just sharing it here. So maybe she's listening and can oh that's oh that that is the other part of the story.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Well, I I think what you're you're touching on is is oftentimes, even if it seems like we're wrong, our intuition is not wrong, which is why I love intuitive exercises because you can come up with something that you think is way out there, but you're not wrong because there's typically a connection.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Exactly. Okay, well, Carissa, are you ready for one more question? Yes. You all do a lot of ghost hunting. Would you ever use a Ouija board while in a haunted location?

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Okay, well, let's think about this. I don't, you know, I feel like so many people look at it as demonic. And I don't know. I think it's your intention. So I'm gonna say I haven't, but I'm not gonna go straight and say no if I'm filling that board with love and light and all that kind of stuff. It doesn't, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't we have this preconceived notion that it's gonna draw in evil spirits? Not necessarily, not if you infuse it with love and that's what you think. It's a loving little communication piece. What do y'all think?

SPEAKER_02 28:52

I do not typically use Ouija boards. So I have had negative experiences with them when I was a teenager, but to me now it's just another form of communication, and my guides are gonna protect me from anything that you know doesn't need to come through, or you know, I'm gonna be protected if I'm using it. So I would be, I don't know if I it would be my go-to, but it's just another form of communication. So I wouldn't say necessarily a hard no, I would definitely protect it, but I don't know if I it would be my go-to.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Yeah. Fair enough. Well, that question was actually from me. I created it because we are getting ready to go to a couple haunted locations, and I have always been fearful of the Ouija board. But since starting this journey, very much like you both said, it's all about the intent. If you sit down there with the intent to communicate for the greatest and highest good, you put protections around it, I think it would be an okay tool. I didn't buy one for this upcoming trip or anything, but I was just curious what your thoughts were because four years ago, I would have said, no, I'm never gonna have one in my physical space again. I'm never gonna use one to communicate.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

So when we were at the Driscoll, right before that little girl came up to me to cross, we had a little cat ball that lit up. It didn't light up anytime at all until right before she came up to me and she had pushed it a little bit on the bed and it lit up. What's the difference? If you had a board there and she just pushed it to, you know, I mean, you know, she pushed a toy.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

It's it's interesting though that you asked the question, Michelle, because I think even six months ago my answer would have been a hard pass. I agree. But you but now, like I think I I just I don't know if it's that I'm more connected or less fearful or what, but I just it it just it's just another form of communication. It's the same thing as using dowsing rods, you know, or tarot, or you know, it's all just a method of of receiving information.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

And I think that'll be a great episode in the future, the different divination tools, the different ways that you can communicate. Maybe take a look at the dousing rods, tarot cards, scrying, things like that. That might be a really good episode. Very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

Yeah, it would be. And I don't know why, but it just popped in my head that I did a reading for somebody and they got mad that I used cards. But what they didn't realize is that just because I use cards as focal points doesn't mean that I'm not hearing other information. It's just a method of focus for me.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

So, do you think that using cards? I don't know a good word, using cards dumbs down for a better word. You're reading, or card readers aren't as legitimate as people who don't use cards because I was listening to a podcast and they said that, and I was really offended because, like you, it's a way for me to focus my energy. I'm looking at it, but the energy, the words, the thoughts are just it may be for them.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

When we're talking, when people talk, they're telling you who they are. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:58

It's I make it for them. And and it really depends on the opinion. Like, so as a reader, I am here for love and light. Like, I'm here all about the good, the best thing, the best information for the person that's sitting in front of me to receive all that is good. So, with saying that, my cards bring out my focus and give you something to look at when I'm reading for you. So it's it lessens the fear, number one, because you've got something that that you're actually looking at and going, oh, so that's where you're getting the information. It's not, it's not where I'm getting the information, but you can see it and it's tangible. Number two, the tools that we use are just that. You are only as good as you are, regardless of the tool that you choose to use. Your pencil doesn't write for you.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

What works for you works for you. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

And I I love that you shared that answer because I remember hearing him say that and thinking, wow, you're an elitist, you're kind of snobby. I hope you never come into my path because I wouldn't want a reading from someone who just is so nasty about other readings.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Maybe it is for you, but it's not for me. Yeah, because we're all different.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

And and again, your your tool is just your tool. Your pencil's not gonna write a novel itself, you gotta be behind it. It's true. So if you pick up a deck of cards and you don't know how to read them, your reading is gonna be not good, or you can actually get a lot of information because you don't know how to read them. Like it it just depends really on the person. I never learned how to traditionally read tarot. I've been reading since I was 13.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Never learned. Right. And I do understand, and it's only been in the last couple of years what the the meanings of each card are, but I never use that either. I look at the picture and whatever pops and brings me to that point. I will say very interestingly, and this is another way the universe talks to you. The last three readings I have been invited to do, each of the participants had the same first name. Is that not freaking crazy?

SPEAKER_01 34:14

That is way too quote unquote coincidence.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Yeah. And where do I go with it? Is I really stepped into my psychic investigation class, and part of that is reading the energy of the name. And I was really curious like, what if someone has the same name? Do you see the same things? The answer is no, you do not. And I think that's the lesson they were getting back to me, but I just thought it was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

I I have to I have to share that I have not had very many readings over the past like two, three months. Like, I'm actually missing them terribly because I love stepping into readings and they bring me so much joy, but I've not had any.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Yeah. You're busy too.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

I know. And I know that there's a reason that they're not coming through, but I do miss them and I would like to have a few. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Yeah. Well, this has been a fun episode. Carissa and I were getting ready to go on a ghost adventure. I will say very often after our first visit to the Driscoll, when Carissa and I are on the phone or talking or in person, an object falls over. Like in the Driscoll Hotel, it was a hotel. Or sorry, in the Driscoll Hotel.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

I hope the hotel didn't fall over.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Woo. Yeah, that's not the hotel. A pillow fell over, and then a purse fell over the other day, just all by itself, nothing was around it. And then another time a pillow. So that's kind of your signature for me, Chris. I think when I'm on the phone with you, it's like, what's gonna drop now? Well, Stacey, would you like to take us out of this episode? Absolutely. Stay classy out there, stay sassy, and stay badass.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Until next time.